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Old 01-27-2013, 05:44 AM   #46
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so i woke up this morning and i saw the results from the matthyse-dallas fight, and i gotta say some of you guys who are giving matthyse a free pass for coming in as a middleweight deserve to be ashamed of yourself, its funny how the same people hate on chavez jr for doing the same thing. coming into a contest 3 divisions above you're divisional weight is shameful. chavez jr and matthyse deserve equal criticism for it.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:45 AM   #47
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didnt Chavez Jr get caught usin somethin illegal tho?
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:48 AM   #48
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Nope, never said he did. I'm just saying, it's very frowned upon. Coming in 25 pounds over the 2nd day. I can't support a fighter like that and won't.

Let's just wait for the test results.
Its not really frowned upon at all. Nearly every boxer cuts weight, some more than others. If people want to cut 20 pounds of water weight let them do it. Most of the time it does more harm than good, but nearly every fighter cuts water weight. It can be argued whether its right or not, but its legal, and he would not be on PEDs to MAKE the weight at all. If you have weigh ins the day before a fight, people will cut more weight than when it was same day weigh ins. That's just the way it goes. I have no problem with Lucas Matthysse cutting that much weight, SO LONG AS HE MAKES WEIGHT!
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Difference is Chavez Jr has a history of constantly doing this, and then on top of that, either gets busted tampering with the scale, testing postive for banned substances to make weight, or somehow missing out on the drug test.

Wake me up when Matthysse does any of these, and then does it on a consistant basis.

Coming in huge for ONE fight? Excuse me for not blasting him for doing something once that Jr made an entire career of doing.

He does it again soon and Im sure you will start to hear more critics.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:50 AM   #50
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**** off!
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:51 AM   #51
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Difference is Chavez Jr has a history of constantly doing this, and then on top of that, either gets busted tampering with the scale, testing postive for banned substances to make weight, or somehow missing out on the drug test.

Wake me up when Matthysse does any of these, and then does it on a consistant basis.

Coming in huge for ONE fight? Excuse me for not blasting him for something Jr made a career of doing.
It might be a explanation for it because he's always in the early 150's from past fights
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:51 AM   #52
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Coming in 24 pounds over in a JR Welterweight bout. FFS Ortiz @ 147 came in at that weight.

If that is not an error by showtime, then f*** Matthyse.

I like him but if he's going to continue pulling Chavez Jr's, then he's lost himself a fan!

Great KO but he really should stop this! This is reminiscent of Gatti/Gamache

CONFIRMED BY DAVID GREISMAN, IT WAS 163.5, NOT 153

- you're so butthurt cuz Matthysse K.O'd a guy with a black cawk ( I know that you enjoy riding black cawks 24/7 on this forum , so maybe this is the real reason that you are so mad ) !!!

son, as long as Matthysse made the weight category before the fight I don't see any problem !
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so i woke up this morning and i saw the results from the matthyse-dallas fight, and i gotta say some of you guys who are giving matthyse a free pass for coming in as a middleweight deserve to be ashamed of yourself, its funny how the same people hate on chavez jr for doing the same thing. coming into a contest 3 divisions above you're divisional weight is shameful. chavez jr and matthyse deserve equal criticism for it.
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Another idiotic thread by mvc.


Its becoming a daily occurance.
You got that right.
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didnt Chavez Jr get caught usin somethin illegal tho?
Chavez jr actually weight cheated, and was caught on using diuretics.
Plus the times he got out of the drug testing, lost samples etc makes you know something always has been off with him.

Now Lucas never had this before, but it's crazy to come in at such a weight. It makes Broner and Rios little boys in comparison. But we still don't know if he did anything illegal or just makes use of the stupid prior day weighin rules.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:58 AM   #56
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MVC = My Vagina needs some black Cawks
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:04 AM   #57
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Haven't read the thread, but what did Dallas come in at? He looked at least as big, weight-wise.
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:06 AM   #58
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Don't worry b....Danny got this guy after Judah
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:07 AM   #59
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Difference is Chavez Jr has a history of constantly doing this, and then on top of that, either gets busted tampering with the scale, testing postive for banned substances to make weight, or somehow missing out on the drug test.

Wake me up when Matthysse does any of these, and then does it on a consistant basis.

Coming in huge for ONE fight? Excuse me for not blasting him for doing something once that Jr made an entire career of doing.

He does it again soon and Im sure you will start to hear more critics.
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:15 AM   #60
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I always thought Lucas seemed to be cutting a lot to make weight. At weigh-ins he doesn't look healthy. But 164 is a hell of a lot - something he doesn't look like in the ring. 20+ pounds would be noticeable. I think an error of some sort must have been made. Possible to get his previously in-ring weights?
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