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Old 01-27-2013, 12:41 PM   #31
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Default Re: Alexander beat Matthysse fair and square deal with it and get over it

It was a terrible robbery, worse than Kotelnik, which wasn't nearly as bad, Lucas lay a beat down on Alexander too
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:41 PM   #32
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Of the two I felt Kotelnik was closer to being a "robbery" than Matthessye, just my opinion.
Me too I went to that Kotelnik fight Alexander lost that one to me.
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:43 PM   #33
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I've trained in the same gym as Alexander for a long time. When I showed up the Monday after the fight people asked me what I thought and I said it was close, this is the response I got from the man who trained Devon for 10+ years

"Man that fight wasn't close he kicked Devon's ass"
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:45 PM   #34
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Cash, you've stated before that Matthysse wasn't that good and that he didn't hit that hard. You then picked Dallas to beat him.
MDJ was then obliterated within a round, and you then label him a glass chinned FNF level boxer.

If he was a glass chinned, low level boxer, why'd you pick him? Or is that just helpful revisionism speaking?
And to top it all off, you post a thread claiming Matthysse actually lost to Alexander despite the vast majority thinking Devon lost.

It's quite clear, to me, that you're biased against him.
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:45 PM   #35
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Default Re: Alexander beat Matthysse fair and square deal with it and get over it

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It was a terrible robbery, worse than Kotelnik, which wasn't nearly as bad, Lucas lay a beat down on Alexander too
Lay a beat down? Rounds 7 and 8 are the only thing that came close to a beat down.
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:45 PM   #36
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It wasn't respect it was footwork.
maybe the footwork of Lucas wasn't quite to scratch but the way he has cornered and battered everyone since tells me he's worked on that issue.

Either way, finding 7 Judah rounds and 6 Alexander rounds is a stretch by the best of definition.
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:48 PM   #37
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Cash, you've stated before that Matthysse wasn't that good and that he didn't hit that hard. You then picked Dallas to beat him.
MDJ was then obliterated within a round, and you then label him a glass chinned FNF level boxer.

If he was a glass chinned, low level boxer, why'd you pick him? Or is that just helpful revisionism speaking?
And to top it all off, you post a thread claiming Matthysse actually lost to Alexander despite the vast majority thinking Devon lost.

It's quite clear, to me, that you're biased against him.
Asshole read the post I quoted when I said he didn't hit that hard. The poster said steroids would explain his power and I said he doesn't hit THATTTTTTTTTTT hard meaning he doesn't hit as hard as to think he couldn't do it without steroids.

And I picked Dallas in a long shot. He was ko'd by Lopez a few fights back. Again I even said in the post "I'm going out on a limb".

Jesus Christ if you don't blow a fighter 24/7 you must be a hater.
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:53 PM   #38
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maybe the footwork of Lucas wasn't quite to scratch but the way he has cornered and battered everyone since tells me he's worked on that issue.

Either way, finding 7 Judah rounds and 6 Alexander rounds is a stretch by the best of definition.
Well I stated the rounds I thought he won and the only responses I got was "no". Devon had the better defense and controlled the fight for the first 6 rounds. He constantly pivoted and had Matthysse stumbling into empty air.
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:56 PM   #39
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Asshole read the post I quoted when I said he didn't hit that hard. The poster said steroids would explain his power and I said he doesn't hit THATTTTTTTTTTT hard meaning he doesn't hit as hard as to think he couldn't do it without steroids.

And I picked Dallas in a long shot. He was ko'd by Lopez a few fights back. Again I even said in the post "I'm going out on a limb".

Jesus Christ if you don't blow a fighter 24/7 you must be a hater.
Calm down for fuck's sake, he said Matthysse has abnormal power. You don't need to blow him but for a "non-hater" you've pretty much fucking slated him whenever I've seen you post about him.
I know you went out on a limb, but you still picked the man to fuckin' win the fight and when he loses suddenly the guy you thought would win is a shitty, glass-chinned nobody.

What this looks like to me is you picking Dallas to win, he loses, so to downplay Matthysse's victory you call him shit. The same say you called Ajose, a top 10 ranked contender and Commonwealth champion, shit.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:15 PM   #40
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Lay a beat down? Rounds 7 and 8 are the only thing that came close to a beat down.
Pretty much. Same as the Judah fight. Somehow Matthysse coming on late erases the previous eight rounds of not laying a solid blow on Judah's face and becomes a beat down.

It was a competitive boxing match, no more no less.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:18 PM   #41
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Default Re: Alexander beat Matthysse fair and square deal with it and get over it

1-3 and 6 were a helluva lot closer than 10 was.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:18 PM   #42
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Well I stated the rounds I thought he won and the only responses I got was "no". Devon had the better defense and controlled the fight for the first 6 rounds. He constantly pivoted and had Matthysse stumbling into empty air.
controlled the first six? You mean apart from the kd right?
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:21 PM   #43
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Default Re: Alexander beat Matthysse fair and square deal with it and get over it

i guess alexander jabbing at air is more points than the Matthyssee body work.

you're entitled to your opinion but just no.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:21 PM   #44
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Not a robbery

But I had Matthysse ahead
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:42 PM   #45
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Default Re: Alexander beat Matthysse fair and square deal with it and get over it

I think Judah has more of a case than Alexander does. Especially with the knockdown in a 10-rounder.
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