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Old 02-01-2013, 10:30 AM   #1
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Ok, you have had all these am fights, squad training , international comp, etc maybe even olympics, well what does it stand for if you need to make your debue with a bulgarian ploughman, . should there be a rule that top class ams make there first bout over 8 rnds, as a total pro novice with zero am fights does a 4 rnder,. Also would it not be better if the rule included he must have an opponent with no worse than a fifty fifty record, afterall the money theyve had spent on em as internationals means they should be half decent, SURELY.? Many a rule change is receved from the board with safety in mind wich is a plus, and uk refs can be safety minded probably knowing an outmatched opponent when they see one, but would it not be much safer with better matches , better to watch etc, as if they can fight they will win?
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Sometimes these guys need some 4 rounders to ease them into the dfifferences in the two "codes".
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Ok, you have had all these am fights, squad training , international comp, etc maybe even olympics, well what does it stand for if you need to make your debue with a bulgarian ploughman, . should there be a rule that top class ams make there first bout over 8 rnds, as a total pro novice with zero am fights does a 4 rnder,. Also would it not be better if the rule included he must have an opponent with no worse than a fifty fifty record, afterall the money theyve had spent on em as internationals means they should be half decent, SURELY.? Many a rule change is receved from the board with safety in mind wich is a plus, and uk refs can be safety minded probably knowing an outmatched opponent when they see one, but would it not be much safer with better matches , better to watch etc, as if they can fight they will win?
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The BBB of C already has the right to veto an opponent. And although that is rare, it has happened.

As for more experienced amateurs starting with eight rounders, again this has happened in both the UK and the USA, relatively recently (Magri and Jones Jr come to mind).

The rules are already in place, they just need the BBB of C to enforce them more forcefully. In the era of the Internet, every opponent outside the UK, should have enough information on them, for the BBB of C to make a decent judgement that the fight is fair for all parties.
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Callum Smith said in an interview that when he made his pro debut it was so different to the amateur's and was a bit of a shock to him how different they are, his was a 4 rounder but it was against a decent opponent for a debut
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No, what, they wont win? or no your happy with bulgarian ploughmen, who by the way get there wins in the gym with a pretend ref who puts there hand up, watch tyson furys first fight, jesus, he cut the poor f-cker in half, im not saying to put them in to hard, but a bit demanding is surely warranted? no!
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Callum Smith said in an interview that when he made his pro debut it was so different to the amateur's and was a bit of a shock to him how different they are, his was a 4 rounder but it was against a decent opponent for a debut
I a difficult opponent will make a fight of it, and goodluck to cameron for boxing and winning, but if you spend years from at least 11 boxing why should you have as much trouble doing 4 as an unboxed total novice ? SURELY THERE A LEAP AHEAD OF THEM.
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Sometimes these guys need some 4 rounders to ease them into the dfifferences in the two "codes".
They have every chance to prepare with pro's, and surely nerves wouldent be to big a facter as theyve already been on big events, ?
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No, what, they wont win? or no your happy with bulgarian ploughmen, who by the way get there wins in the gym with a pretend ref who puts there hand up, watch tyson furys first fight, jesus, he cut the poor f-cker in half, im not saying to put them in to hard, but a bit demanding is surely warranted? no!
Bulgarian Ploughmen are a right of passage....just because someone is experienced in the AMs doesn't mean that they will crossover successfully. As previously stated the BBBofC has the last word on whether to sanction a fight or not
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The BBB of C already has the right to veto an opponent. And although that is rare, it has happened.

As for more experienced amateurs starting with eight rounders, again this has happened in both the UK and the USA, relatively recently (Magri and Jones Jr come to mind).

The rules are already in place, they just need the BBB of C to enforce them more forcefully. In the era of the Internet, every opponent outside the UK, should have enough information on them, for the BBB of C to make a decent judgement that the fight is fair for all parties.
Ive already quoted tysons first bout, but what an example, now when your being paid well, is it to much to ask for you to break a sweat, and if you win is there not a feeling of more acomplishment with yourself and fans, who are more sure that the one there following can go somewhere., ps, the board should be more discerning otherwise the days not far away when debuts are made on a heavybag in ring centre.
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Retarded in my opinion.
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