Where is Rampages standing in the ATG Lhw division?

Stoo · 01-30-2013, 10:34 PM

There was a point when QJ was considered the GOAT

Where would you rate Page

As a discussion point, how good was a prime Quinton?

Haggis McJackass · 01-30-2013, 11:16 PM

Resume/overall career wise, or h2h on his best night wise?

Stoo · 01-30-2013, 11:16 PM

Anyone?

Stoo · 01-30-2013, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Haggis McJackass

Resume/overall career wise, or h2h on his best night wise?

Resume wise, but what do you think he could achieve hth...doubt he would rank higher the 2-0 over prime Chuck. Guess thats why Im asking the question...nobody dominated a prime ATG twice but his resume since in really lacking

Page has some good wins...but was he Liddels' kryptonite (great tdd and epic chin)and an ATG great, or was he a good style match up against Chuck but severely lacking against rudimentary Muay Thai[Wandy, Keith, shogun, Forrest}?

Haggis McJackass · 01-31-2013, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Stoo

Resume wise, but what do you think he could achieve hth...doubt he would rank higher the 2-0 over prime Chuck. Guess thats why Im asking the question...nobody dominated a prime ATG twice but his resume since in really lacking

Page has some good wins...but was he Liddels' kryptonite (great tdd and epic chin)and an ATG great, or was he a good style match up against Chuck but severely lacking against rudimentary Muay Thai[Wandy, Keith, shogun, Forrest}?

Stoo · 01-31-2013, 12:18 AM

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rekcutnevets · 01-31-2013, 12:39 AM

Oh well, I was going to embed an I Talk to Myself video; but Haggis fucked it up before I learned how to do it.

Rampage is around the 6th best to fight at this weight. Though Liddell lost to Jackson head to head, his accomplishments out weigh Rampage's. Wanderei has him head to head, and resume wise. Wanderlei, Chuck, Liddell, Rua, and Jones should be above him.

Stoo · 01-31-2013, 12:43 AM

Id agree with that Rek, Charles was higher resume wise but Page had his number. If the Chuck of the Suloev/Belfort fight had fought Page, he may have made his low kicks take their toll rather than be right hand happy. Maybe Page was just a better boxer with good TDD to beat Charles...as I say his kryrptonite...

Aaron Contreras · 01-31-2013, 01:24 AM

Wandy, Rua, and probably Shamrock are comfortably ahead of Jackson, IMO.

It's tough comparing Jackson to Liddell and Ortiz -- because Jackson clearly rolls both of them consistently had he always fought in the UFC.

rekcutnevets · 01-31-2013, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Aaron Contreras

Wandy, Rua, and probably Shamrock are comfortably ahead of Jackson, IMO.

It's tough comparing Jackson to Liddell and Ortiz -- because Jackson clearly rolls both of them consistently had he always fought in the UFC.

Why is Shamrock?

Stoo · 01-31-2013, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Aaron Contreras

Wandy, Rua, and probably Shamrock are comfortably ahead of Jackson, IMO.

It's tough comparing Jackson to Liddell and Ortiz -- because Jackson clearly rolls both of them consistently had he always fought in the UFC.

1st sentance...assuming you mean Frank?

And how is it tough comparing Page to Charles and Tito when he's 2-0 against Liddel, and Tito aint beat a striker of note since Wandy [maybe Vitor, even that was close] and Quinton wasnt lacking in TDD and could easily replicate what Charles did?

PS dont post when drunk fella...leave that to Rek...who lies!

Stoo · 01-31-2013, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by rekcutnevets

Why is Shamrock?

He was watching Saku v Shamrock?

xRedx · 01-31-2013, 05:54 PM

rampage should have boxed, he doesn't have good kicking or ground game.

Peter__1987 · 01-31-2013, 06:39 PM

I think a prime Rampage (who can actually be bothered) is a tough night for any LHW in history.

Not saying he was the best, but a tough night for anyone.

Rampage's problem IMO was just fuckin laziness, once the game started evolving and he was required to learn new techniques to stay relevant he dropped off dramatically.

Rampage just wants everyone to stand in front of him with their chin in the air and if you don't do that, he really can't be fucking bothered.

Sad really, with his ridiculous strength and KO power he could of possibly been the LHW GOAT.

Well, until Bones came along.

benebox · 02-03-2013, 09:11 PM

Top 5 for sure. He went on quite a run in the UFC before he lost (well officially anyway) to Forrest.

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rekcutnevets Black Sash East Side Guru Join Date: May 2007 Location: InYourMouth, NC Posts: 6,541 vCash: 1000	Re: Where is Rampages standing in the ATG Lhw division? Oh well, I was going to embed an I Talk to Myself video; but Haggis fucked it up before I learned how to do it. Rampage is around the 6th best to fight at this weight. Though Liddell lost to Jackson head to head, his accomplishments out weigh Rampage's. Wanderei has him head to head, and resume wise. Wanderlei, Chuck, Liddell, Rua, and Jones should be above him.
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Stoo RIP T-Dog East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 14,938 vCash: 1000	Re: Where is Rampages standing in the ATG Lhw division? Id agree with that Rek, Charles was higher resume wise but Page had his number. If the Chuck of the Suloev/Belfort fight had fought Page, he may have made his low kicks take their toll rather than be right hand happy. Maybe Page was just a better boxer with good TDD to beat Charles...as I say his kryrptonite...
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Aaron Contreras Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 250 vCash: 500	Re: Where is Rampages standing in the ATG Lhw division? Wandy, Rua, and probably Shamrock are comfortably ahead of Jackson, IMO. It's tough comparing Jackson to Liddell and Ortiz -- because Jackson clearly rolls both of them consistently had he always fought in the UFC.
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xRedx Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,785 vCash: 955	Re: Where is Rampages standing in the ATG Lhw division? rampage should have boxed, he doesn't have good kicking or ground game.
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Peter__1987 The Manassa Mauler East Side Guru* Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 7,926 vCash: 0	Re: Where is Rampages standing in the ATG Lhw division? I think a prime Rampage (who can actually be bothered) is a tough night for any LHW in history. Not saying he was the best, but a tough night for anyone. Rampage's problem IMO was just fuckin laziness, once the game started evolving and he was required to learn new techniques to stay relevant he dropped off dramatically. Rampage just wants everyone to stand in front of him with their chin in the air and if you don't do that, he really can't be fucking bothered. Sad really, with his ridiculous strength and KO power he could of possibly been the LHW GOAT. Well, until Bones came along.
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benebox Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 922 vCash: 75	Re: Where is Rampages standing in the ATG Lhw division? Top 5 for sure. He went on quite a run in the UFC before he lost (well officially anyway) to Forrest.
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