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Old 02-03-2013, 02:44 AM   #16
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Easy on the ripe chestnuts there old chap.
Leonard was past his best in 1983 and had one fight in four years.
I'd say Hagler held most of the aces when it came to prime and sharpness.
And whilst mature chestnuts are on the menu,why don't we bring up the old,"he ducked Pryor" tune?

Of course he cherry picked after Hagler.It was a farewell tour.Even top names cherry pick these days.
No one was pretending it was a prime Ray,going for the P4P top spot.He knew he was a shadow of his prime self.Not one big name US fighter felt the urge to bring Benn over because he was a huge TV name and guaranteed earner,and anyone can list dozens of fights that were apparently "agreed" that never happened.
Ask Mike McCallum.And the guy(s) who chose not to fight him was no ducker.


On Pryor ducked maybe a little strong but I think fighting Pryor was to higher risk with to little to gain on the money front for Leonard to be interested in
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Old 02-03-2013, 02:50 AM   #17
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Dumbest thread of all time !! So what another Brit couldn't pad their record with another American legend what a tragedy the boxing world really suffered,from that
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Old 02-03-2013, 03:49 AM   #18
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Sugar Ray is also ducking Froch at the moment... *****
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Old 02-03-2013, 05:36 AM   #19
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Leonard definitely cherry-picked after Hagler.

Still managed to beat undefeated versions of Benitez, Hearns, Kalule, a 72-1 Duran, and the physically larger, undefeated-for-11 years Hagler before that.
That is a fair post. Leonard is one of my all time favourite fighters, but did like to have it to suit himself, like how he got Lalonde to boil down to SMW, the fight with Hagler made from 15 to 12 rounds, I seem to think that I read that the ring size was to his liking, but could be wrong, but with all this, there is no mistaking Leonard was a great fighter.
Benn was dangerous and not worth the risk. Leonards legacy was very important to him and Benn could have been very damaging for him.

I think prime Leonard would have taken the chance, but the Leonard in his 30s I think was looking for the best legacy fights and Benn would most likely have blasted Leonard out.

Yes it appears that Leonard didnt want to fight Benn, but it shouldnt harm his career.
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Old 02-03-2013, 06:29 AM   #20
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That is a fair post. Leonard is one of my all time favourite fighters, but did like to have it to suit himself, like how he got Lalonde to boil down to SMW, the fight with Hagler made from 15 to 12 rounds, I seem to think that I read that the ring size was to his liking, but could be wrong, but with all this, there is no mistaking Leonard was a great fighter.
Benn was dangerous and not worth the risk. Leonards legacy was very important to him and Benn could have been very damaging for him.

I think prime Leonard would have taken the chance, but the Leonard in his 30s I think was looking for the best legacy fights and Benn would most likely have blasted Leonard out.

Yes it appears that Leonard didnt want to fight Benn, but it shouldnt harm his career.
Prime leonard? are u serious? Prime leonard was at WELTERWEIGHT!!! MY GOODNESS!! Listen in that time after benn beat barkley, leonard was already far past his prime. That was easily not leonard best 160 pound weight. Anybody that follow boxing knows this.
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Old 02-03-2013, 06:33 AM   #21
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I don't think Ray wanted to fight either Benn or Barkley. He just wanted to fight his old friends and legends. Benn or Barkley could have been a tough fight.
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Old 02-03-2013, 06:36 AM   #22
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this can't be a serious thread.

Leonard fought, and beat, Duran, Benitez, Hearns and Hagler. there was no fear of Benn

By then Ray was just a sideshow bringing attention to the newly created SMW division.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:15 AM   #23
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Prime leonard? are u serious? Prime leonard was at WELTERWEIGHT!!! MY GOODNESS!! Listen in that time after benn beat barkley, leonard was already far past his prime. That was easily not leonard best 160 pound weight. Anybody that follow boxing knows this.

I know. Think you need to re read the post again
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:20 AM   #24
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Leonard outside of the welterweight class was very over rated.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:22 AM   #25
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Benn and Eubank ducked James Toney. Look at them. Quiet as mice.

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"No fighters in England. They all bums."

James "Lights Out" Toney the true SMW champ
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On Pryor ducked maybe a little strong but I think fighting Pryor was to higher risk with to little to gain on the money front for Leonard to be interested in
Leonard offered Pryor a career high of half a mil but Pryor wanted more.
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Old 12-05-2013, 02:09 PM   #27
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Easy on the ripe chestnuts there old chap.
Leonard was past his best in 1983 and had one fight in four years.
I'd say Hagler held most of the aces when it came to prime and sharpness.
And whilst mature chestnuts are on the menu,why don't we bring up the old,"he ducked Pryor" tune?

Of course he cherry picked after Hagler.It was a farewell tour.Even top names cherry pick these days.
No one was pretending it was a prime Ray,going for the P4P top spot.He knew he was a shadow of his prime self.Not one big name US fighter felt the urge to bring Benn over because he was a huge TV name and guaranteed earner,and anyone can list dozens of fights that were apparently "agreed" that never happened.
Ask Mike McCallum.And the guy(s) who chose not to fight him was no ducker.
when i read aobut people shitting on leonard for cherry picking hagler for his comeback fight, i just shake my head.

all things considered, what will people say down the road for the mayweahter comeback fight against marquez?

i might prolly throw up reading them.
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Old 12-05-2013, 02:15 PM   #28
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Benn and Eubank ducked James Toney. Look at them. Quiet as mice.

"No fighters in England. They all bums."

James "Lights Out" Toney the true SMW champ
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now we have his head got bigger type of shit.
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Old 12-05-2013, 02:41 PM   #29
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Old 12-06-2013, 09:46 AM   #30
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Forgive these buffoons! Nobody dictated to ray leonard. Thats, the bottom line from the begiining of his career, to the end of it.
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