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Old 02-03-2013, 09:47 PM   #1
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fighters such as Saul Alvarez and manny pacquiao.
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:52 PM   #2
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Sure aslong as good fights get made but not when there's joint effort to duck and dodge.
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:15 PM   #3
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Sugar Ray Robinson risked his life when he refused to let his career be controlled by the mob. He was respected among mob leaders.

I admire this.
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:17 PM   #4
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Sugar Ray Robinson risked his life when he refused to let his career be controlled by the mob. He was respected among mob leaders.

I admire this.
He also ducked Burley
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:18 PM   #5
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Sugar Ray Robinson risked his life when he refused to let his career be controlled by the mob. He was respected among mob leaders.

I admire this.
He also ducked Burley and the rest of the Murderers' Row
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:20 PM   #6
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fighters such as Saul Alvarez and manny pacquiao.
Add Nonito to that list too.
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:43 PM   #7
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You can actually admire people for different reasons and admire them for isolated ones. You don't have to admire everything about a person to admire something about them. I admire Ray Robinson as a fighter, for instance. Very much so. I don't admire him beating miscarriages into his wife, however. For instance.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:07 PM   #8
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You can actually admire people for different reasons and admire them for isolated ones. You don't have to admire everything about a person to admire something about them. I admire Ray Robinson as a fighter, for instance. Very much so. I don't admire him beating miscarriages into his wife, however. For instance.
That is a badge of honor in the ***** code of ethics.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:19 PM   #9
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I respect a fighter that has control of his or her own destiny. I think the final decision should be the fighters. Giving total control of your destiny to another man or woman is foolish.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:31 PM   #10
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I love when people get self righteous about this kind of thing.

I'm sure most people who post here would throw away a six or seven figure job with no other way to support themselves, just to stand up to their boss on general principle. Especially if they had invested years of excruciating work and they had come up from poverty.

90% of us, including me when I had a job, don't have nearly as much to lose as these guys. And when the boss says jump, we say "how high?" That's life, unless you are extremely fortunate.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:33 PM   #11
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I love when people get self righteous about this kind of thing.

I'm sure most people who post here would throw away a six or seven figure job with no other way to support themselves, just to stand up to their boss on general principle. Especially if they had invested years of excruciating work and they had come up from poverty.

90% of us, including me when I had a job, don't have nearly as much to lose as these guys. And when the boss says jump, we say "how high?" That's life, unless you are extremely fortunate.
so you jumped as high as was demanded of you yet you are jobless
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:38 PM   #12
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thing about Alvarez is hes young thats why i dont mind too much
he could fight for another 10 years thats enough fights to fight everyone decent at 154 and 160, but he does need to step up asap
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:40 PM   #13
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promoters control the game. he who has the power is king
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:41 PM   #14
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I voted yes and as much as it ****ing irritates me when a fighter says it's up to the promoter i'll always give them respect for entering a boxing ring, but i'll rate them lower in terms of ATG status if they avoid all or most big challenges in their respective division.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:43 PM   #15
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Well, I make a modest living gambling now. Before that, I had a few ****py jobs. If the boss said to do something, I did it because I couldn't afford to lose them. And unlike a pro fighter, I didn't have a ten year window to make most of the money I'd make for my whole life.

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