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Old 02-05-2013, 09:24 AM   #16
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Pretty good. Lil' Nog is rated too low though, that win over Rashad is actually quite big.
It was certainly a very good win for him, but I'd be more impressed if Rashad actually looked like he gave a shit.

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Old 02-05-2013, 09:55 AM   #17
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True he's not ranked, but that's purely because he's confirmed to have left one division and has yet to appear in another.

I wouldn't have given Sonnen the shot. But it seems he got it based on his willingness to fight Jones on basically no notice at all when nobody else would go near the fight, coupled with his ability to sell the fight. Without the Jones-Hendo ****around, I doubt Sonnen walks into a title shot. But he was the only man who was willing to step up and get his ass kicked on a week's notice so that the show could go on, and the UFC has a history of rewarding guys who are willing to go the extra mile for the company.

A mismatch is better than no fight at all, so I see why he got the short notice thing. But to sell a PPV on the strength of a mismatch? Hendo may well lose to Machida and will probably retire if he does, then that fight is gone forever. All because Sonnen will give some good copy in the lead up to to the fight and it will add some spice to season 17 of TUF but come fight time he will be outclassed massively. I say again, why have official rankings if the UFC clearly make fights based on entertainment/back story reasons. They never had them before and having them now kind of makes some of the matchmaking look ridiculous.
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:57 AM   #18
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Is it just me - or did they manage to find a way to literally make every division look like they completely suck?
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:00 AM   #19
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Well Mir has beaten the better people as of late
I dunno I feel Werdum and Lesnar are bigger win than Nelson & Nog (only just though).
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:23 AM   #20
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I would have put Hunt instead of carwin...at least he fought last year !
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:34 AM   #21
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Pretty good rankings.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:07 PM   #22
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Very Boxing of them.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:53 PM   #23
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Give Cigano the rubber match!!!
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:57 PM   #24
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HEAVYWEIGHT:

Champion: Cain Velasquez
1) Junior dos Santos
2) Fabricio Werdum
3) Daniel Cormier
4) Antonio Silva
5) Frank Mir
6) Alistair Overeem
7) Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
Roy Nelson
9) Stefan Struve
10) Shane Carwin


LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT:

Champion: Jon Jones
1) Dan Henderson
2) Lyoto Machida
3) Alexander Gustafsson
4) Glover Teixeira
5) Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
6) Rashad Evans
7) Mauricio Rua
Phil Davis
9) Ryan Bader
10) Gegard Mousasi


MIDDLEWEIGHT:

Champion: Anderson Silva
1) Chris Weidman
2) Vitor Belfort
3) Michael Bisping
4) Yushin Okami
5) Mark Munoz
6) Costa Philippou
7) Luke Rockhold
Hector Lombard
9) Alan Belcher
10) Tim Boetsch


WELTERWEIGHT:

Champion: Georges St-Pierre
1) Johny Hendricks
2) Carlos Condit
3) Nick Diaz
4) Rory MacDonald
5) Demian Maia
6) Jake Ellenberger
7) Martin Kampmann
Josh Koscheck
9) Jon Fitch
10) Tarec Saffiedine


LIGHTWEIGHT:

Champion: Benson Henderson
1) Gilbert Melendez
2) Anthony Pettis
3) Gray Maynard
4) Nate Diaz
5) Jim Miller
6) Donald Cerrone
7) T.J. Grant
Rafael dos Anjos
9) Joe Lauzon
10) Khabib Nurmagomedov


FEATHERWEIGHT:

Champion: Jose Aldo
1) Chad Mendes
2) Ricardo Lamas
3) Chan Sung Jung
4) Frankie Edgar
5) Dennis Siver
6) Cub Swanson
7) Dustin Poirier
Nik Lentz
9) Erik Koch
10) Clay Guida


BANTAMWEIGHT:

Champion: Dominick Cruz
1) Renan Barao (Interim champion)
2) Michael McDonald
3) Urijah Faber
4) Eddie Wineland
5) Brad Pickett
6) Brian Bowles
7) Rafael Assuncao
Scott Jorgensen
9) Mike Easton
10) Ivan Menjivar


FLYWEIGHT:

Champion: Demetrious Johnson
1) Joseph Benavidez
2) John Dodson
3) Ian McCall
4) John Moraga
5) Jussier da Silva
6) Louis Gaudinot
7) Chris Cariaso
John Lineker
9) Darren Uyenoyama
10) Ulysses Gomez


There are some problems I see in the future and some things that don't add up:

-Cormier and Melendez are much further up the scale than Luke Rockhold, which I don't think is justified.... Luke Rockhold should be at #5.

-Chad Mendes is ranked the #1 Contender, but is scheduled to fight Manny G (who doesn't even make the damn list). I know this was signed probably before this idea came about, but is he holding that #1 spot hostage or what?? So this tells me Lamas will have to go through Mendes in order to get his Title Fight.

-Clay Guida gets no love.

-Without question, Koscheck is better than Kampmann and Ellenberger... They threw a couple of Contenders in front of him because he is just that good, and could probably earn another crack at the Title a year from now. The powers that be are just prolonging the inevitable.

For the most part it's the list that I wanted, but what I don't want is Gustafsson having to fight the loser of Hendo v Machida for a Title Fight (should he win his next fight). But, more than likely Daniel Cormier is going to get a Title shot at JJ before anyone else.... So I see Gustafsson v Teixeira fighting for a shot at the Title later this year. One thing that I love about this list is Johny as the #1 WW Contender in the World... This is his time, and we shall see if he is destined for UFC Gold.

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Give Cigano the rubber match!!!
I agree, while interest is very high and Werdum has a fight scheduled..... Brown Pride dominates after being knocke out in 64 seconds.... Let's draw some conclusions and move on to the next Contender.... I don't even feel comfortable calling JDS a Contender anyway, give us our rubber match and make it a big friggin' deal.... Let the two HWs fight in Brazil or Mexico this summer, but a rubber match in Vegas makes a lot more sense in terms of growth. I say Vegas, Vegas baby Vegas!!

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Old 02-05-2013, 01:39 PM   #25
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I would have put Hunt instead of carwin...at least he fought last year !
Absolutely. Carwin is as good as retired as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:44 PM   #26
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Lol @ Edgar giving a competitive fight. He got dominated. He did absolutely NOTHING that had any success with exceptions of an uppercut and couple of hooks the whole fight. I don't know what fight people were watching.
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Old 02-05-2013, 03:48 PM   #27
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Here are the official P4P rankings:

1. Anderson Silva
2. Jon Jones
3. Georges St-Pierre
4. Jose Aldo
5. Benson Henderson
6. Cain Velasquez
7. Dominick Cruz
8. Demetrious Johnson
9. Frankie Edgar
10. Dan Henderson
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Old 02-05-2013, 03:48 PM   #28
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Well Mir has beaten the better people as of late
I agree, and it makes me sad. And someone said Reems wins were bigger? He only has 1 in UFC. These are UFC rankings, not mma rankings, right?
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Old 02-05-2013, 03:59 PM   #29
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Here are the official P4P rankings:

1. Anderson Silva
2. Jon Jones
3. Georges St-Pierre
4. Jose Aldo
5. Benson Henderson
6. Cain Velasquez
7. Dominick Cruz
8. Demetrious Johnson
9. Frankie Edgar
10. Dan Henderson
I dont really have a problem with the names but drop Frankie and put in Melendez then move Jones down 1-2 steps for starters.
GSP deserves that P4P #2 but i wouldnt argue with those who thinks he should be #1 either
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Old 02-06-2013, 12:25 PM   #30
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how does nate the great dosent get on the list ???
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