I see Roy Jones hanging past his prime is hurtin his legacy more than Ali hurt his.

MMJoe · 01-15-2013, 01:30 PM

Ali hung around for a few beatings, but is still the top gun as far as fans and present day champions are concerned.
Now people seem to dwell on Roys opponets being subpar instead of fucking good he really was.
I don't recall champs pitching so many shutouts with 120 score in 12 rounders. Not Duran, not hearns, not Ali, Not SRR, not SRL. Even when they were fighting 'easy' fights. Ali vs Wepner for instance.

McGrain · 01-15-2013, 01:32 PM

The problem with this comparison is their relative competition whilst they were active.

Ali fought better HW's than anyone.

Jones hasn't fought better competition than anyone at any weight.

Unforgiven · 01-15-2013, 01:36 PM

Hanging around too long shouldn't hurt a fighter's historical standing.

Roy Jones Jr. was one of the best fighters ever.

MMJoe · 01-15-2013, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by McGrain

The problem with this comparison is their relative competition whilst they were active.

Ali fought better HW's than anyone.

Jones hasn't fought better competition than anyone at any weight.

omg, never mind

KOTF · 01-15-2013, 05:08 PM

Thought this thread was about how he and Steve Collins are finally gonna meet

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Synthetic Decay · 01-15-2013, 05:10 PM

It shouldn't affect his standing to a huge degree, he was obviously a great fighter.

The difference is that Ali was tanking damage well past prime albeit looking bad in the process, where as Roy is getting knocked the fuck out regularly.

The Spider · 01-15-2013, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Unforgiven

Hanging around too long shouldn't hurt a fighter's historical standing.

Roy Jones Jr. was one of the best fighters ever.

Shouldn't perhaps. But the reality is it does.

If Roy hangs around long enough, and the signs are he will, he'll succeed in destroying his record, his legacy and himself.

Sadly, boxing's next tragedy is already in its advanced stages.

MMJoe · 01-15-2013, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Synthetic Decay

It shouldn't affect his standing to a huge degree, he was obviously a great fighter.

The difference is that Ali was tanking damage well past prime albeit looking bad in the process, where as Roy is getting knocked the fuck out regularly.

I don't recall someone so dominant turning so jello jawed as Roy. One has to wonder if Tarver didn't ruin him in their 2nd fight.

TheSouthpaw · 01-15-2013, 05:24 PM

It does help that Ali spent his whole career fighting guys weve actually heard of!, cant say the same for Roy. As soon as he got into the ring with an actual contender he got his ass handed to him so I really dont give a shit about Jones Jr's legacy Im just glad I dont have to look at him anymore.

MMJoe · 01-15-2013, 05:43 PM

If not already, Roy will probably be fucked up. He wanted to get out while young because he saw his friend and fellow dominant champ gerald mcclellan get knocked retarded by Benn. It looks like Roys career plan has veered off course.

The Spider · 01-15-2013, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MMJoe

If not already, Roy will probably be fucked up. He wanted to get out while young because he saw his friend and fellow dominant champ gerald mcclellan get knocked retarded by Benn. It looks like Roys career plan has veered off course.

The money running out was the 'inspiration' behind the career re-think.

Tragically, Roy will be a babbling mess inside 10 years. Probably a lot sooner.

MMJoe · 01-15-2013, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Spider

The money running out was the 'inspiration' behind the career re-think.

Tragically, Roy will be a babbling mess inside 10 years. Probably a lot sooner.

That fellow has made more do-ra-me than I can possibly imagine. Seriously how addicted are some people to material status symbols?
make a million and spend like you made a billion, crazy.

The Spider · 01-15-2013, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MMJoe

That fellow has made more do-ra-me than I can possibly imagine. Seriously how addicted are some people to material status symbols?
make a million and spend like you made a billion, crazy.

I think Roy wasted most of his money 'investing' in music.

TheSouthpaw · 01-15-2013, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MMJoe

That fellow has made more do-ra-me than I can possibly imagine. Seriously how addicted are some people to material status symbols?
make a million and spend like you made a billion, crazy.

Hes a fuckin idiot!..And am I missin something here? please tell me Roy isnt comin back!!..And doesnt HBO pay his ass?

MMJoe · 01-15-2013, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSouthpaw

Hes a fuckin idiot!..And am I missin something here? please tell me Roy isnt comin back!!..And doesnt HBO pay his ass?

did he announce he's quitting?

01-15-2013, 01:30 PM	#1
MMJoe P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 16,253 vCash: 1000	I see Roy Jones hanging past his prime is hurtin his legacy more than Ali hurt his. Ali hung around for a few beatings, but is still the top gun as far as fans and present day champions are concerned. Now people seem to dwell on Roys opponets being subpar instead of fucking good he really was. I don't recall champs pitching so many shutouts with 120 score in 12 rounders. Not Duran, not hearns, not Ali, Not SRR, not SRL. Even when they were fighting 'easy' fights. Ali vs Wepner for instance.
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McGrain Diamond Dog East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 63,236 vCash: 1000	Re: I see Roy Jones hanging past his prime is hurtin his legacy more than Ali hurt hi The problem with this comparison is their relative competition whilst they were active. Ali fought better HW's than anyone. Jones hasn't fought better competition than anyone at any weight.
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Unforgiven Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 13,141 vCash: 1000	Re: I see Roy Jones hanging past his prime is hurtin his legacy more than Ali hurt hi Hanging around too long shouldn't hurt a fighter's historical standing. Roy Jones Jr. was one of the best fighters ever.
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KOTF Bingooo East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Playa Vista, Los Angeles Posts: 7,676 vCash: 60874	Re: I see Roy Jones hanging past his prime is hurtin his legacy more than Ali hurt hi Thought this thread was about how he and Steve Collins are finally gonna meet [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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Synthetic Decay Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 293 vCash: 500	Re: I see Roy Jones hanging past his prime is hurtin his legacy more than Ali hurt hi It shouldn't affect his standing to a huge degree, he was obviously a great fighter. The difference is that Ali was tanking damage well past prime albeit looking bad in the process, where as Roy is getting knocked the fuck out regularly.
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TheSouthpaw Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: St. Louis Posts: 2,854 vCash: 500	Re: I see Roy Jones hanging past his prime is hurtin his legacy more than Ali hurt hi It does help that Ali spent his whole career fighting guys weve actually heard of!, cant say the same for Roy. As soon as he got into the ring with an actual contender he got his ass handed to him so I really dont give a shit about Jones Jr's legacy Im just glad I dont have to look at him anymore.
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MMJoe P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 16,253 vCash: 1000	Re: I see Roy Jones hanging past his prime is hurtin his legacy more than Ali hurt hi If not already, Roy will probably be fucked up. He wanted to get out while young because he saw his friend and fellow dominant champ gerald mcclellan get knocked retarded by Benn. It looks like Roys career plan has veered off course.
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