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Old 02-08-2013, 12:43 AM   #31
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NO! Not only is Louis greater but he is close to 10 lbs lighter, just to seal it!

I like hearing both sides.
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:07 AM   #32
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Nothing wrong with that. Mine as of this second off the dome

1. Henry Armstrong
2. Harry Greb
3. Ray Robinson
4. Sam Langford
5. Ezzard Charles
6. Benny Leonard
7. Roberto Duran
8. Mickey Walker
9. Muhammad Ali
10. Barney Ross
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:15 AM   #33
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You better have Charles over Fitzsimmons.
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:35 AM   #34
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Why don't you go ahead? Go ahead. You'll feel nice. Trust me, I know what's best for the forum...


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Yeah, Charles is guaranteed top 10. You should put him at #4 though. Go ahead and put him at #4. It's nice. You'll feel nice, so go ahead and put him at #4.

[color="Black"][size="3"]DO IT!
Tryna use some Derren Brown mind **** there
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Old 02-08-2013, 02:11 AM   #35
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I reckoned the lack of Charles in my top-10 would be the biggest gripe. For me, I guess he wasn't on clear top of a division for long enough? I understand I could be wrong.

But I'm here to learn. Someone care to persuade me?
With most of the murderers row group there is two reasons they didnt rule their main division: noone gave them a shot in their prime, the war froze the titles.


There was a period of time when he was the best lhw campaigning in the division though.

From.the top.of my head it's something like bivins beat christoforidis then moved up, Marshall beat bolden then lost to Moore who lost to Williams then won the rematch then lost to Charles who tore his way through the best lhw and hw fighters until the war ended and he finally received his title shot against Walcott.

I mean yeah looking through the ring top tens he doesn't spend a whole heap of time at the top but that's purely circumstantial and doesn't tell the story.

I mean he beat burley at mw, Moore at lhw and Louis at hw. That's a top 10 atg in each weight class.

With Charles the argument should be how far up the top ten he is.
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Old 02-08-2013, 02:18 AM   #36
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I don't really have a top ten yet but if someone was threatening to rape me unless I produced one it would look like

Robinson
Armstrong
Greb
Fitzsimmons
Langford
Leonard
Charles
Moore
Pep
Ali

I'm only really happy with my top 7 though. The others I ain't sold on. I'm gonna put the fab 4 all from 10-20 though it just feels right to me.
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:30 AM   #37
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Roberto Duran doesn't belong in the top ten p4p, for me.
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:07 PM   #38
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Joe Louis above Muhammad Ali? No deal.
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:07 PM   #39
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Nothing wrong with that. Mine as of this second off the dome

1. Henry Armstrong
2. Harry Greb
3. Ray Robinson
4. Sam Langford
5. Ezzard Charles
6. Benny Leonard
7. Roberto Duran
8. Mickey Walker
9. Muhammad Ali
10. Barney Ross
I like that. Charles; I'm still trying to grasp more. (For some reason.)

I'd presume your top-4 are all interchangable? Why no Pep?
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:16 PM   #40
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... But if someone was threatening to rape me unless I produced one...
Did anyone else note the absurdity here?
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:21 PM   #41
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Joe Louis above Muhammad Ali? No deal.
Agree. I see a lot of Jack Johnson over Joe Louis too and I just can't fathom it.

1. Ray Robinson
2. Hank Armstrong
3. Harry Greb
4. Sam Langford
5. Ezzard Charles
6. Muhammad Ali
7. Ben Leonard
8. Roberto Duran
9. Archie Moore
10. Ray Leonard
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:24 PM   #42
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Good list imo.. slightly different than mine, but still good
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:27 PM   #43
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I probably have Ali/Leonard too high but I'm a shameless so everyone can S a D
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:46 PM   #44
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Did anyone else note the absurdity here?
it got my point across though, right?
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Old 02-08-2013, 02:46 PM   #45
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I like that. Charles; I'm still trying to grasp more. (For some reason.)

I'd presume your top-4 are all interchangable? Why no Pep?
I've no problem with Pep being rated around 11-15. I tend to leave him out of the top 10 a lot of the time
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