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Old 02-08-2013, 06:54 PM   #16
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Nunn/Kalambay was pretty crazy.
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Old 02-08-2013, 06:58 PM   #17
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Nunn/Kalambay was pretty crazy.
Thought of that, but both went into that bout as title 'claimants'.
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:01 PM   #18
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I was going to say that.
Yeah, wasn't kalambay officially the challenger though, he was stripped I'm pretty sure.

Nunn had a lot of first rounders for a SP
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:03 PM   #19
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Yeah, wasn't kalambay officially the challenger though, he was stripped I'm pretty sure.

Nunn had a lot of first rounders for a SP
Technicality ala Hearns/Duran. Whoever won, would gain 'general recognition' as champ.
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:05 PM   #20
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Technicality ala Hearns/Duran. Whoever won, would gain 'general recognition' as champ.
Isn't that how it goes in most 'champion vs challenger' bouts?
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:10 PM   #21
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Isn't that how it goes in most 'champion vs challenger' bouts?

Yes

But I meant (and I know you are just being pedantic; like I so often am ), in the sense the match was for the 'vacant generally recognized championship' going in...
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:10 PM   #22
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Pascual Perez-Dai Dower.
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:12 PM   #23
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Yes

But I meant (and I know you are just being pedantic; like I so often am ), in the sense the match was for the 'vacant generally recognized championship' going in...
Fair enough. I had always saw the bout as for Nunn's title though

We can DQ it from the listing though
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:28 PM   #24
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:07 PM   #25
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It was just too obvious. I was thinking about the runner up.

Tyson/Spinks they were both titlists....BUT Tyson was moreso the challenger in that one, IMO
Unified heavyweight titles > some faggot lineal title

the lineal title is the most worthless "title" in the sport, especially since the lineage isn't linear. truly a paper title.
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Old 02-09-2013, 05:08 AM   #26
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Unified heavyweight titles > some faggot lineal title

the lineal title is the most worthless "title" in the sport, especially since the lineage isn't linear. truly a paper title.
More linear than say the lineage of the Kings/Queens of England and now the rest of the UK...
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:43 AM   #27
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those who are obsessed with lineage shouldn't really class Spinks as linear for 2 reasons.

1) A true lineage (where a retired champ keeps his belt) ended with Tunney.

2) those who say 1 v 2 starts a new lineage should discover that after Ali retired, this occurred not until Tyson v Spinks.
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:24 AM   #28
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2) those who say 1 v 2 starts a new lineage should discover that after Ali retired, this occurred not until Tyson v Spinks.
But Ali had come back and fought Holmes and lost, which (in the absence of an alternative 1 v 2 matchup) gave Holmes lineage.
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Old 02-09-2013, 10:25 AM   #29
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liner is dead at heavyweight again...since lewis never lost it in the ring and retired with a win over vitali...some just give the ring title the liner title however. It also died with Tunney and Marcano. ...however..right now...Wlad due to ring is called liner, before that vitali due to ring..than lewis..beat briggs...foreman...moore...holyfield...bowe...holyfield....douglas...tyson...spinks....holmes....ali ....L. spinks....ali...foreman...frazier...ali....liston...patterson...johanson....patterson....we go to marciano.....ummmm not sure who actually had liner before him.....walcott? charles, louis? anyhow, you get to louis....and beat braddock....bear, carneria, sharkey, shemling that we get to the retired tunney..dempsey...willard....johnson....jeffries....fitz...corbett..sullivan..... sound about right?
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Old 02-09-2013, 11:13 AM   #30
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Finding out lineage is such a numbing discussion
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