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Old 02-09-2013, 01:10 PM   #31
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I know this isnt abouy the heavys but remember the rjj and dm situation? Roy kept up beating the best contenders and cleaned out the division except for dm, who sat in germany defending his "lineal" title and fihting roys leftovers

Eventually they were both lineal champs at the same time until dm lost to a roy left over. So was he really the champ im that instance? He refused to fight roy and he had no mandatories with that lineal title so he could get away with fighting subpar competition.

Lineal titles dont mean much now ... Its more of a prestige title now
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Old 02-09-2013, 01:18 PM   #32
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Yeah, Roy whooped GOnzales who then went on to beat DM. I'd imagine Roy should have been considered "the man" in the division. Even before that really.
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Old 02-09-2013, 02:11 PM   #33
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But Ali had come back and fought Holmes and lost, which (in the absence of an alternative 1 v 2 matchup) gave Holmes lineage.
That's the point if Ali is still champ during retirement then he's never champ at all because tunney would have took it to his grave.
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Old 02-09-2013, 03:16 PM   #34
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That's the point if Ali is still champ during retirement then he's never champ at all because tunney would have took it to his grave.
Yeah. The whole re-establishing of it is hazy, especially when fighters retire or leave the division.
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Old 02-09-2013, 03:35 PM   #35
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I know this isnt abouy the heavys but remember the rjj and dm situation? Roy kept up beating the best contenders and cleaned out the division except for dm, who sat in germany defending his "lineal" title and fihting roys leftovers

Eventually they were both lineal champs at the same time until dm lost to a roy left over. So was he really the champ im that instance? He refused to fight roy and he had no mandatories with that lineal title so he could get away with fighting subpar competition.

Lineal titles dont mean much now ... Its more of a prestige title now
Yes but is that the case? Did Roy refuse to fight DM in Germany or did DM refuse to fight Roy in the states, who's refusing who?
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Old 02-09-2013, 04:02 PM   #36
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Yes but is that the case? Did Roy refuse to fight DM in Germany or did DM refuse to fight Roy in the states, who's refusing who?
Both did.

Roy had a more justifiable reason IMO. And DM made his point by fighting his leftovers.
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:50 PM   #37
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Nelson-Cowdell.
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Both did.

Roy had a more justifiable reason IMO. And DM made his point by fighting his leftovers.
What was the justifiable reason?
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What was the justifiable reason?
his Olympic experience in Korea
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his Olympic experience in Korea
you got me there I wouldn't of thought of that!
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:12 PM   #41
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you got me there I wouldn't of thought of that!
i kinda give him a pass for that

and because DM was fighting his leftovers

Roy was the king of the LHWs then, not DM
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i kinda give him a pass for that

and because DM was fighting his leftovers

Roy was the king of the LHWs then, not DM
It would of been nice to see them fight.
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