Frampton/Martinez score at time of stoppage

[leo_messi]

I gave Martinez 2 rounds.

The commentary was very deceptive. Ok, Martinez was getting to Frampton at some points, but by and large I thought Frampton was relatively comfortable in there.

From round one he was catching Martinez clean as he came forward and it was only a matter of time before that paid dividends, although the commentary never picked up on that.

I genuinely thought it was a comfortable win, never looked in real bother, was never hurt and was in control for about 80% of the fight.

[|A|C|S|]

Originally Posted by leo_messi

I gave Martinez 2 rounds.

The commentary was very deceptive. Ok, Martinez was getting to Frampton at some points, but by and large I thought Frampton was relatively comfortable in there.

From round one he was catching Martinez clean as he came forward and it was only a matter of time before that paid dividends, although the commentary never picked up on that.

I genuinely thought it was a comfortable win, never looked in real bother, was never hurt and was in control for about 80% of the fight.

yeah the commentators were on Martinez's dick for some reason, as soon as Frampton got hit clean and took it i knew there was nothin Martinez could do, he probably won about 2 when Frampton was a bit lazy but it wasnt a close fight at all

[leo_messi]

Originally Posted by |A|C|S|

yeah the commentators were on Martinez's dick for some reason, as soon as Frampton got hit clean and took it i knew there was nothin Martinez could do, he probably won about 2 when Frampton was a bit lazy but it wasnt a close fight at all

Having said what I said about Frampton being comfortable and landing on Martinez relatively regulalrly and from an early stage, I still didnt expect him to stop martinez. I thought martinez would of seen it out. Was surprised and impressed with the Frampton finish.

Frampton does have a nice flow to how he throws.

[|A|C|S|]

Originally Posted by leo_messi

Having said what I said about Frampton being comfortable and landing on Martinez relatively regulalrly and from an early stage, I still didnt expect him to stop martinez. I thought martinez would of seen it out. Was surprised and impressed with the Frampton finish.

Frampton does have a nice flow to how he throws.

yeah i thought there was no way he would stop him apart from cuts Martinez didnt really slow down too much he looked game the whole way, that punch was a beauty tho straight down the middle shows u how one simple punch can do so much damage

[JohnAnthony]

just watched it. When you know the outcome, and the tension is gone. You can see Kiko is not coming back into it at all in the 9th.

The middle rounds were the ones where it was swinging either way.

But the 9th round, frampton stepped up a gear and dominated the round before KO'ing him.
And if he didn't, my feeling was he would have in the 20th or 11th, or at least won all the remaining rounds.

[HOF]

Originally Posted by thewinfella

To be completely honest at the time of the stoppage I could sense a momentum change, I thought Frampton was beginning to look like he was in the shit!

Thought the same thing too. Not that Frampton had been in trouble but I'd expected Martinez's marauding to have slowed down a lot more by this stage, whilst Frampton was starting to breathe a bit heavier on the backfoot. That makes it even more impressive a finish as far I'm concerned. Neither guy had looked like knocking each other out and although Frampton was ahead on most people's cards you can never be totally sure how the judges are scoring a fighter who is going backwards for the most part.

So to take it out of the judges hands in such a manner against a guy was still there and who hadn't been stopped before was a top effort. It's deceptive re-scoring after the event, but haven't seen Barry that excited at the end for some time and it was a relieved kind of excitment to a certain extent too.

[achillesthegreat]

I would say Frampton was up by a few rounds despite Martinezs persistence.

His first line of defence is movement but his movement isn't quite good enough for him to rely on it so heavily. It was clear he did not like the pressure, the tenacity, the workrate and certainly not the body shots. Huge props for staying calm, putting together good moments en route to an awesome stoppage.

It was a great step up fight and his career is being guided nicely as each step up in level will asks questions of him that require him to work on. Given the discomfort Martinez put Frampton in, the Quigg fight continues to excite.

[IntentionalButt]

79-73 Frampton

[IntentionalButt]

Originally Posted by jackukmma

I gave Martinez 2 rounds. Don't think it was all that close at all

I could see giving Kiko 2, but he was well out of it.

[lost]

It was difficult to judge because of how much of the fight I spent looking at my dad and saying, "what the **** is Jim Watt on about?"

It seemed like every punch Martinez threw Watt was banging on about how fragile Frampton looked. I understand that Frampton got caught with a few too many, but I figured he looked solid and didn't look too phased by his power. He was never in any real trouble, kept his legs and more often than not came back with better shots than he had just taken.

I did think Frampton was starting to tire around the 8th and thought that maybe the fight may have been starting to turn around. I actually thought it'd go 12 and Frampton would just edge it on a close but clear decision, maybe a split at a push but that without the commentary I wonder how much of a shock that beaut of a punch would have been.

[dftaylor]

Some of the mistakes Frampton was making were because he wasn't used to someone pressuring him. Normally he's been able to dictate the pace of a fight.

So there was a slightly haphazard feel to a lot of Carl's early work, trying to see what would stop Kiko's forward momentum. It made him look a little disorganised, but once he settled around the fifth, he got a lot more assertive.

Eventually he realised he could stay on the inside with his marauding opponent and out-punch him up close. Once he did, he had Martinez struggling to read what to do. Then he tricked him by backing up towards the ropes, letting Martinez open up and landing that brutal straight right.

We saw Frampton get his spurs round by round. That's why I think he'll beat Quigg, because he's shown that capacity to adapt and react to what his opponent brings.

[Manning]

I probably only gave Martinez the one round and even that was a tight one.

[SkillspayBills]

Yeah i didn't give Martinez much either (1 or 2 rounds), I thought Frampton did well and dealt with anything Martinez came with. Martinez had punchers gloves on as well so he's proved that chin to be decent enough but Frampton doesn't ship many shots and if you do land he makes you earn that right which is nice to see.

I'd like him to set his feet a little more and box centre ring but i respect why he circled in defensive fashion. The finish was classy and even early on i saw his punches affect Martinez.

[IntentionalButt]

Nobody had Martinez ahead, did they?

Or even a draw?

I don't see how one could've seen it as close, really. A few dramatic moments, sure, but far and away the Jackal was putting in the work until it paid dividends. Had the stoppage not come, anything short of a wide unanimous decision (119-109 to 117-111 variety) would've been shocking.

Do we know what the official scores were?

[effigy]

Official scores were 78-74 x2 and 77-75.