Will Gavin Rees see round 7? - Page 5

dftaylor · 02-12-2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bam bam

We can shit on any fighters opposition. How many people on this site thought he would dominate DeMarco as easily as he did? I doubt many did. But after the fight DeMarco is shit and was lucky against Linares and got hammered by Valero. That will go on and on with whoever he faces.

I'm not shitting on his opposition, but Broner has been very carefully matched. No denying it.

Anyway, DeMarco isn't some hack fighter, but the last two points you made are true. He WAS lucky against Linares and he DID get hammered by Valero.

bam bam · 02-12-2013, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dftaylor

I'm not shitting on his opposition, but Broner has been very carefully matched. No denying it.

Anyway, DeMarco isn't some hack fighter, but the last two points you made are true. He WAS lucky against Linares and he DID get hammered by Valero.

He wasn't lucky at all. Linares threw everything at him and couldn't end him. DeMarco then ended him. It was a great win for him. Broner won't get credit because of his personality which makes a lot of fans dislike him. You say he's been carefully matched but he demolished DeMarco who many thought would give him problems and has been avoided by Burns how many times now? He will also beat Ricky if they ever decide to take the fight and that win won't receive any credit.

dftaylor · 02-12-2013, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bam bam

He wasn't lucky at all. Linares threw everything at him and couldn't end him. DeMarco then ended him. It was a great win for him. Broner won't get credit because of his personality which makes a lot of fans dislike him. You say he's been carefully matched but he demolished DeMarco who many thought would give him problems and has been avoided by Burns how many times now? He will also beat Ricky if they ever decide to take the fight and that win won't receive any credit.

You made so many good points until you said that!

billy nelson · 02-12-2013, 11:52 AM

I've got £200 @12/1 for a Rees victory way overpriced,Gavin will suprise him with is speed and Gavin also uses his lack of height to his advantage,I just think its a great value bet!

Jim Bowen · 02-12-2013, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by richard mossley

you say cut him some slack and then predict he will be stopped 2 rds later than rd 7!

He was referring to bookies having him 80/1. I think.

bam bam · 02-12-2013, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dftaylor

You made so many good points until you said that!

I like Ricky. I don't actually think he avoided Broner. He would take the fight in a second. It's the guys around him. Morrison and *****. I don't think they want the fight. Morrison is already trying to make a Burns/Harrison fight for June

We have to be honest, if Broner had vacated to avoid Burns and then turned the fight down again because he wasn't ready a year later we would be trashing him.

richard mossley · 02-12-2013, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by billy nelson

I've got £200 @12/1 for a Rees victory way overpriced,Gavin will suprise him with is speed and Gavin also uses his lack of height to his advantage,I just think its a great value bet!

Ricky Burns is paying you well.

McGuinty · 02-12-2013, 12:53 PM

He wont see the final bell anyway.

UndisputedUK · 02-12-2013, 02:23 PM

Rees is a good domestic lightweight. His lack of height has often been used to an advantage. His speed, combinations and durability and ringcraft should enable him to last a few rounds against Broner. Quick flurries in the opening rounds, a low stance and standing out of range may pose Broner a bit of a problem at the start. You have got to expect Broner to eventually warm to the task and stop Gavin with flashy and accurate punches somewhere between rounds 3-8. I cannot see Rees knocking Broner out, I can see him outworking him perhaps, whilst trying to avoid taking anything big back in return. That's his best chance. I'd love to see Rees give his all, but Broner may well be something special.

Jay23 · 02-12-2013, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dftaylor

Some seriously low definitions of "special" in here. What about him getting out-boxed by Daniel Ponce De Leon - did that not make you consider that you'd perhaps made a mistake?

Come on.. Ponce de leon wasn't his finest hour but even the greatest fighters have their off nights and its pretty clear hes improved alot since then as you'd expectwith a young fighter..Other than that I think it's fair to say he's looked pretty spectacular.

People can discredit his resume as you can with anyone's but sometimes it is possible to see a fighter never minding who he has or hasn't fought and know he's something out of the ordinary.

I love nothing more than calling out a yank hype job but on this occasion I know I can't do that..

My prediction is Broner TKO 6

True_Hero · 02-12-2013, 02:36 PM

I think Rees is gonna shock a lot of people. I've put a fiver on him to win

He's a very underated fighter and Broner is very overrated.

I do think Broner IS better. But I can see Broner going into this as if the fights a sure thing when it's not. Broner will underestimate Rees. Rees will win.

Clark81 · 02-12-2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dftaylor

Some seriously low definitions of "special" in here. What about him getting out-boxed by Daniel Ponce De Leon - did that not make you consider that you'd perhaps made a mistake?

He's not gonna walk every fight. Do you think Mayweather looked special vs Castillo?

You can't say he wasn#t special vs DeMarco, a fight many believed he'd lose vs another southpaw like DeLeon.

dftaylor · 02-12-2013, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Clark81

He's not gonna walk every fight. Do you think Mayweather looked special vs Castillo?

You can't say he wasn#t special vs DeMarco, a fight many believed he'd lose vs another southpaw like DeLeon.

I can, I did, I have. DeMarco's limitations were abundantly clear - the only chance he had was if he could impose his size on Broner.

At what point was Broner not the favourite in that fight?

dftaylor · 02-12-2013, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay23

Come on.. Ponce de leon wasn't his finest hour but even the greatest fighters have their off nights and its pretty clear hes improved alot since then as you'd expectwith a young fighter..Other than that I think it's fair to say he's looked pretty spectacular.

People can discredit his resume as you can with anyone's but sometimes it is possible to see a fighter never minding who he has or hasn't fought and know he's something out of the ordinary.

I love nothing more than calling out a yank hype job but on this occasion I know I can't do that..

My prediction is Broner TKO 6

There is no evidence of this improvement whatsoever. Who has he beaten that offered the same look and problems that Ponce, no one's idea of a stick and move boxer, gave him?

No one. He's been well matched since then to avoid any fighter that exposes his poor footwork.

Your second point is bullshit. You can't say anyone is special until they've proven it against the best. Broner lost that fight with Ponce, pretty clearly if you score on the usual boxing criteria. The guy is a hype-job.

Bellewlovechild · 02-22-2013, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by billy nelson

I've got £200 @12/1 for a Rees victory way overpriced,Gavin will suprise him with is speed and Gavin also uses his lack of height to his advantage,I just think its a great value bet!

facking hell £200 live like a king for a year in scotland

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UndisputedUK Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,931 vCash: 1000	Re: Will Gavin Rees see round 7? Rees is a good domestic lightweight. His lack of height has often been used to an advantage. His speed, combinations and durability and ringcraft should enable him to last a few rounds against Broner. Quick flurries in the opening rounds, a low stance and standing out of range may pose Broner a bit of a problem at the start. You have got to expect Broner to eventually warm to the task and stop Gavin with flashy and accurate punches somewhere between rounds 3-8. I cannot see Rees knocking Broner out, I can see him outworking him perhaps, whilst trying to avoid taking anything big back in return. That's his best chance. I'd love to see Rees give his all, but Broner may well be something special.
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True_Hero Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 323 vCash: 500	Re: Will Gavin Rees see round 7? I think Rees is gonna shock a lot of people. I've put a fiver on him to win He's a very underated fighter and Broner is very overrated. I do think Broner IS better. But I can see Broner going into this as if the fights a sure thing when it's not. Broner will underestimate Rees. Rees will win.
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