Bob Foster vs Joe Calzaghe At LHW

[Jorodz]

Orriray said it all. Calzaghe was great at 168...not so much at 175. H2h foster beats any calzaghe. Just cause joe did not fight the kind of opponents that could exploit his flaws doesnt mean he didnt have them .

Foster jabs the shit out of him and knocks him down in the second with a short left. Calzaghe goes into survival mode and lasts the distance

[orriray59]

Originally Posted by Jorodz

Orriray said it all. Calzaghe was great at 168...not so much at 175. H2h foster beats any calzaghe. Just cause joe did not fight the kind of opponents that could exploit his flaws doesnt mean he didnt have them .

Foster jabs the shit out of him and knocks him down in the second with a short left. Calzaghe goes into survival mode and lasts the distance

Thank you.

I do think Calzaghe over Hopkins is a good win, but still, it ain't anywhere near prime Hopkins.

Calzaghe doesn't cut it at 175 against any of the ATG light-heavies.

[DaveK]

Originally Posted by rusak

Foster has a chance if he can keep Calzaghe at the end of his one-two. I don't really see that happening. What's Foster going to do when Calzaghe gets in his chest throwing 100 punches a round?

Dump him via short left hook he never sees...

I rate Joe higher than many might, I really like him, but he simply has nothing for Foster. Foster outboxes him and outfights him.

If old Hopkins and older Jones can drop him, Foster will do the same, except Foster has more power and more in the tank to finish the job.

[Waynegrade]

Please tell ,me this a bogus post ??? Are you kidding ? Foster by asolutely brutal knockout ! Afetr Joe slides around and flurry with quick punches (which Foster walks through). Calzaghe quickly realizes that the freakishly tall Foster (with a heavyweight wingspan) is incredibly hard to reach.And a much better bxer than advertised. Foster would have no respect for Calzaghe at all. By the 6th round, the fabled Foster left hook lands on Joe`s chin. His back finds a nice spot on the canvas !!! Calzaghe would NOT last the distance, Foster won`t let him ...

[TheSouthpaw]

Originally Posted by DaveK

Dump him via short left hook he never sees...

I rate Joe higher than many might, I really like him, but he simply has nothing for Foster. Foster outboxes him and outfights him.

If old Hopkins and older Jones can drop him, Foster will do the same, except Foster has more power and more in the tank to finish the job.

Good point!..

[Waynegrade]

Originally Posted by orriray59

Indeed, but you underrate boxers of the past, most notably when you labeled Max Schmeling a runt. Just sayin'.

Yeah, he does. He also gets overrated to fuck by some.

Yeah, it was brilliant. Not very accurate at all though, nor was he a hard puncher at light-heavyweight as evidenced by his zero stoppages at the weight. Says a lot considering among those opponents was a shot to shit Roy Jones, and even then he was sat down. KD'd solidly against Hopkins, also.

I don't dispute that, but again, he was knocked down in every fight he had at light-heavyweight, and both of those men were past prime. Hopkins isn't a massive puncher either, whereas Bob Foster would fucking electrocute his opponents.

His defensive capabilities were a bit average at light-heavy. He was tagged cleanly repeatedly against both Hopkins and Roy. This spells doom if he was fighting Bob Foster.


Here's you completely overrating light-heavyweight Calzaghe, who wasn't near the level of the Joe that dismantled Jeff Lacy, then calling Foster overrated.

It was a bit weak at points but overall a solid list of opponents. His LHW resume is thin as fuck, though. Two fights at the weight, over past prime opponents and even then got dropped heavily. One was shot and still managed to land cleanly in the bout.

What, you mean 44-2-1 Fourie? Finnegan? Unbeaten Quarry? Rondon? Kelly? Anderson? Tessman? Dick Tiger?
Yeah, that line up pales in comparison to 40+ Hopkins and a past it Roy Jones Jr. By the way, Foster knocked most of these guys out.

Not my fault you don't know shit about Bob Foster.
Or boxing in general.

Yeah, okay. Calzaghe who couldn't stop Roy Jones at that point of his career is taking out prime Bob Foster. Hilarious.

Great points !! Calzaghe was dropped by Jones and Hopkins who are nowhere close to Foster`s league in terms of punching.Foster would only need one solid left hook to finish Calzaghe...

[SJS19]

Originally Posted by orriray59

Thank you.

I do think Calzaghe over Hopkins is a good win, but still, it ain't anywhere near prime Hopkins.

Calzaghe doesn't cut it at 175 against any of the ATG light-heavies.

He'd beat Joey Maxim.

[rusak]

Originally Posted by orriray59

Indeed, but you underrate boxers of the past, most notably when you labeled Max Schmeling a runt. Just sayin'.

Schmeling is an absolute fucking runt compared to Vlad. So are Marciano, Louis, Dempsey, etc.

Webster's Dictionary:

runt

3
: a person of small stature


What are you mad about?

Yeah, it was brilliant. Not very accurate at all though, nor was he a hard puncher at light-heavyweight as evidenced by his zero stoppages at the weight. Says a lot considering among those opponents was a shot to shit Roy Jones, and even then he was sat down. KD'd solidly against Hopkins, also.

Calzaghe fought only twice at LHW at the end of his career, and one of those was against Bernard Hopkins. Meanwhile, back in reality, most SMWs in Calzaghe's era are as big in the ring as the average LHW of the 60s and 70s.

I don't dispute that, but again, he was knocked down in every fight he had at light-heavyweight, and both of those men were past prime. Hopkins isn't a massive puncher either, whereas Bob Foster would fucking electrocute his opponents.

Being past prime doesn't mean you don't have hand speed or can't punch hard. Moreover, Calzaghe recovered well.

His defensive capabilities were a bit average at light-heavy. He was tagged cleanly repeatedly against both Hopkins and Roy. This spells doom if he was fighting Bob Foster.

For a fighter with that kind of volume, he had very good defense. And getting tagged by Bernard Hopkins or even the corpse of Roy Jones doesn't disprove that. And if you want to talk about getting hit, Doug Jones beat the shit out of Foster.

Here's you completely overrating light-heavyweight Calzaghe, who wasn't near the level of the Joe that dismantled Jeff Lacy, then calling Foster overrated.

Again, you're making a distinction between LHW and SMW that doesn't really exist. Calzaghe was a 60s-70s LHW his entire career.

[orriray59]

Originally Posted by SJS19

He'd beat Joey Maxim.

You think? Maxim looked like shit against Robinson on film but that guy could box. Beat a green Floyd Patterson, Sugar Ray Robinson (I acknowledge the conditions of this bout and victory, though) Ted Lowry, Bob Murphy, Freddie Mills, Pat McCafferty, Joe Kahut, Jimmy Bivins, Bob Satterfield, Tony Bosnich, Bob Sikes, Marty Clark, Jersey Joe Walcott, Buddy Walker, etc.

That's a damn good list of opponents. Damn. Good.

[rusak]

Originally Posted by Jorodz

Orriray said it all. Calzaghe was great at 168...not so much at 175.

Modern 168 is as big in the ring as 60's 175. Stop trying to invent a size advantage for Foster that isn't really there.

[orriray59]

Calzaghe fought only twice at LHW at the end of his career, and one of those was against Bernard Hopkins.

An old Hopkins who arguably won the fight, planting Calzaghe on the canvas.

Meanwhile, back in reality, most SMWs in Calzaghe's era are as big in the ring as the average LHW of the 60s and 70s.

Due to weigh-ins the day preceding the bout.
This is irrelevant anyway because we're taking the Calzaghe from his light-heavyweight contests and pitting him against the Foster from his light-heavyweight contests.

Being past prime doesn't mean you don't have hand speed or can't punch hard. Moreover, Calzaghe recovered well.

I know that. But if you're getting knocked down hard against past it Hopkins and Jones what's going to happen when you get clocked by a guy who punches much harder than said opponents, and not only that, but is straight up a better boxer than the versions Calzaghe fought?

For a fighter with that kind of volume, he had very good defense.

He still got hit plenty, which would happen here. And he's not going to take it well.

And getting tagged by Bernard Hopkins or even the corpse of Roy Jones doesn't disprove that.

It proves that he can be tagged by elite (Hopkins) and non-elite (at the time Jones was shot) and Foster was about as elite as one can get at a weight.

And if you want to talk about getting hit, Doug Jones beat the shit out of Foster.

Foster was a substitute with less than 10 fights. I wonder how Calzaghe would fare 10 fights into his career against Doug Jones, the same guy who gave Ali a bunch of hassle?

Again, you're making a distinction between LHW and SMW that doesn't really exist. Calzaghe was a 60s-70s LHW his entire career.

Which is completely irrelevant I might add because the SMW, prime Calzaghe won't be fighting Foster in this match-up.

[orriray59]

Originally Posted by rusak

Modern 168 is as big in the ring as 60's 175. Stop trying to invent a size advantage for Foster that isn't really there.

He had four inches in height and six inches in reach on Calzaghe.

Pretty big size advantage.

[orriray59]

This is a complete mis-match anyway so I'm not even going to respond to anybody making the argument for Calzaghe.

I'd literally bet the house on a Foster win.

[LittleRed]

Originally Posted by orriray59

He had four inches in height and six inches in reach on Calzaghe.

Pretty big size advantage.

You might even call Calzaghe a runt compared to foster, eh.

[Jorodz]

Originally Posted by rusak

Modern 168 is as big in the ring as 60's 175. Stop trying to invent a size advantage for Foster that isn't really there.

Stop trying to invent a 175 calzaghe that never existed