How does Burns/Broner go now then?

[craney91]

Just watched videos on youtube, in both the press conference and an interview Broner and team confirm they wanted the Burns fight, and they offered him it for that fight last night, and just like Jim Lampley said, they said much the same, they priced themselves out. Broner's dad at the PC said a "nobody priced himself out". "Who is he?"

His dad also said, Burns has been running for a while now to avoid this fight.

[shaunster101]

I don't think we'll ever see this fight.

[JIM KELLY]

i think we'll see burns v rees before burns v broner.

[Nipple]

Originally Posted by JIM KELLY

i think we'll see burns v rees before burns v broner.

[ollyc]

Originally Posted by Lilo

Here's what we KNOW Broner can do:

Beat a European level lightweight.
Beat a crude, one dimensional, lightweight titlist.
Counter punch. With speed and force.
Beat a past-prime Escobedo, whilst overweight.
Beat a coked up Eloy Perez.

That's pretty much it. Those are the facts. What I see a load of is people saying he could do this, that and the other. But the above is what we know.

There's an awful lot of questions still to be answered.

And the reverse of this is that we could say that we know what Ricky can do:

Beat a well, prepared European level Kevin Mitchell.
Beat a well past prime Katsidis who had been battered by JMM & Guerrero in his last two meaningful fights.
Beat an average guy handed a 'regular' belt for reasons unknown.
Beat another guy who was being tooled by Nicky Cook for three rounds.
Beat another guy with a degenerative back condition.
Beat a Norwegian midget.
Beat a TTG.

I'd say he has as many if not more questions to answer about his capabilities. We'll see what he's got in a month's time.

[craney91]

We'll be seeing Harrison and Rees before Broner if Burns beats Vazquez.

In fact, what am I talking about?

There is no way Ricky Burns is beating Miguel Vazquez. People are picking Vazquez over Broner if they ever fight. Broner is on another level overall to Ricky Burns and if people are saying Vazquez beats Broner, then he will most definitely beat Ricky Burns. No?

At the end of the day, this ship has sailed now, Team Burns priced themselves out of a Broner fight. They should have been all over it if they were as confident as they say they are of beating Broner. But it seems Team Burns think Ricky Burns is worth more than he actually is and Team Broner think much the same. They offered him the fight, and they are claiming its not the first time, and whenever they do its always the same excuse and Team Burns run away.

Like I said, they wont be waiting around for Ricky Burns to make a decision, they'll sit back and laugh when he gets beat by Vazquez and be looking forwards, not backwards, Broner aint waiting for nobody. They will be looking to sweep up the division and move up before you can blink.

Ricky Burns, who dat!?!

[skoorydookatron]

Originally Posted by craney91

The down players and suppressesers are out in force I see?

The fact is, Broner has faced the best coming up through the weights and has beat them all. Ricky's next fight is his biggest, Broner has been turning over high level competition at world level. They wanted Ricky to fight Liam Walsh not to long back. And Ricky's last fight was against Kevin Mitchell. Adrien Broner has stopped fighters who aint been stopped, beaten undefeated fighters, and beaten numero uno ranked fighters.

Gavin Rees had only been stopped once in his whole career, against Kotelnik, Rees himself admitted back then he was living a fast life. This was supposedly a fitter, new and improved confident Gavin Rees and apart from a good showing in 2 rounds. Broner stepped it up and squished Rees like a slug.

What makes anyone think that he cant do it to Ricky Burns? He has done it to everyone else.........

Is Ricky Burns some messiah and all time great with more power than Tyson and more skill than Mayweather?

You are entitled to your opinion that Broner beats Burns ( I agree with you) but Broners level of competition hasn't been even remotely as high as you make out.

If Burns defeats Vazquez he has a better CV than Broner FACT hell even now they are around even

[craney91]

Originally Posted by skoorydookatron

You are entitled to your opinion that Broner beats Burns ( I agree with you) but Broners level of competition hasn't been even remotely as high as you make out.

If Burns defeats Vazquez he has a better CV than Broner FACT hell even now they are around even

I agree.

But that IF is so f*cking massive, if Ricky beats Vazquez, I'll go as far to say that he has caused a shock and a massive upset.

But mate, just look at Vazquez's record man -

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This is a harder fight style wise than Broner for Burns, because Vazquez moves so much and dictates a high tempo. When you look at who he has been in with and how experienced he is, its more than just likely that he can run rings around Ricky and win the fight. If Ricky wins though, it'll be incredible.

I'd say watch Vazquez's last fight, he was pretty good.

[skoorydookatron]

Originally Posted by craney91

I agree.

But that IF is so f*cking massive, if Ricky beats Vazquez, I'll go as far to say that he has caused a shock and a massive upset.

But mate, just look at Vazquez's record man -

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This is a harder fight style wise than Broner for Burns, because Vazquez moves so much and dictates a high tempo. When you look at who he has been in with and how experienced he is, its more than just likely that he can run rings around Ricky and win the fight. If Ricky wins though, it'll be incredible.

I'd say watch Vazquez's last fight, he was pretty good.

Couldn't agree more Vazquez is an excellent boxer almost looks sloppy but throws accurate punches from all sorts of angles and is very patient but I have underestimated Burns before.

[craney91]

Originally Posted by skoorydookatron

Couldn't agree more Vazquez is an excellent boxer almost looks sloppy but throws accurate punches from all sorts of angles and is very patient but I have underestimated Burns before.

So have lots of people.

Vazquez's style is hell for Ricky Burns, to be honest, its hell for anyone. Question is, does he move around more than Sergio Martinez?

[shaunster101]

As much as I'd like to see Burns beat Vasquez, part of me wants him to lose so that we get to see the winner of that fight vs Broner. I really don't see Burns fighting Broner if he wins that fight, at all. The noises coming from his manager kind of confirm this, and in all likelihood he'll fight someone like Harrison or Rees and Broner will move up to 140.

[BlackBrenny]

Originally Posted by craney91

Oh he didnt get completely destroyed by Michael Katsidis then, with the ropes the only thing keeping him up?

uh yeah, he wasnt put down though, and he wasnt exactly held up by the ropes

Craney, you gotta try harder mate, you actually bigged up Broner beating Eloy Perez as some sort of bragging right. UNDEFEATED FIGHTER!!!
Beating undefeated british champion Graham Earl in tenth fight > beating a coked up Eloy Perez and getting a gift vs Quintera

[BlackBrenny]

Originally Posted by craney91

Just watched videos on youtube, in both the press conference and an interview Broner and team confirm they wanted the Burns fight, and they offered him it for that fight last night, and just like Jim Lampley said, they said much the same, they priced themselves out. Broner's dad at the PC said a "nobody priced himself out". "Who is he?"

His dad also said, Burns has been running for a while now to avoid this fight.

come on now mate, even you don't believe that ricky burns was sitting on the phone with frank ****** saying "i wont fight broner unless i get 3 quarters of a million! end of story!"

[billy nelson]

Originally Posted by craney91

Just watched videos on youtube, in both the press conference and an interview Broner and team confirm they wanted the Burns fight, and they offered him it for that fight last night, and just like Jim Lampley said, they said much the same, they priced themselves out. Broner's dad at the PC said a "nobody priced himself out". "Who is he?"

His dad also said, Burns has been running for a while now to avoid this fight.

What does BONERS dad know about running?

[BlackBrenny]

Originally Posted by billy nelson

What does BONERS dad know about running?

nice one