Frank Bruno questions...

Russell · 07-08-2007, 10:51 PM

Supposedly Mr. Bruno had some of the most sickening one shot power in boxing. Didn't have the combination or speed of Tyson, but just as much if not more single shot power.

I've heard that said more than once around here. What examples of it are there?

Making McCall go into a shell?

Shocking Tyson pretty bad?

Whhhhat?

TBooze · 07-09-2007, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Russell

Supposedly Mr. Bruno had some of the most sickening one shot power in boxing. Didn't have the combination or speed of Tyson, but just as much if not more single shot power.

I've heard that said more than once around here. What examples of it are there?

Making McCall go into a shell?

Shocking Tyson pretty bad?

Whhhhat?

Bruno had a clubbing power, he lacked snap in his punches. A lot of his KO's came from hitting people in the temple, and he was very good at stopping those fighters rated 15 to 30 in the world who normally take people the distance. But against the top level all he really had was his incredible physical strength.

If you could survive the first half dozen rounds, and you were anything resembling world class, you beat Bruno.

But to answer your question the defeat of Gerrie Coetzee was probably his most devastating and his defeat of Bugner his most impressive.

fists of fury · 07-09-2007, 05:55 AM

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But to answer your question the defeat of Gerrie Coetzee was probably his most devastating and his defeat of Bugner his most impressive.

Coetzee didn't have an iron chin, but it was solid enough. His KO losses usually came late when he had gassed (references: KO by 8 Page and KO by 13 Weaver) and Bruno took Coetzee out in the first with a huge right hand that had Coetzee out cold, lying halfway out of the ring. It was a very impressive KO win for Bruno.

In addition, he is one of maybe 3 guys to really rock a rampaging Tyson with a great left hook in the first round. I think he really shook up Mike more than anyone else managed to do in the 80's with that shot.

TBooze · 07-09-2007, 06:04 AM

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In addition, he is one of maybe 3 guys to really rock a rampaging Tyson with a great left hook in the first round. I think he really shook up Mike more than anyone else managed to do in the 80's with that shot.

And if he was not petrified of Tyson, he may of done even better!

fists of fury · 07-09-2007, 06:07 AM

True.

I think Bruno's problem is that he froze up and let his fear get the better of him. I still think either way he loses, but he could have been more competitive had he mastered his fear.

groove · 07-09-2007, 12:37 PM

weaknesses - predictable, slow footwork, bad stamina in later rounds, not very smart fighter when in trouble or when he had Tyson in trouble failed to follow up and take advantage, lacked confidence against the best.
strengths - good jab and powerful right hand, always in great shape, likeable fella. Maybe make the top 50.

Raggamuffin · 07-10-2007, 05:47 AM

Very much musclebound and therefore to tight.
Not much straight punching and no infight ability
Extremely likeable fellow though

heerko koois · 07-10-2007, 05:51 AM

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Very much musclebound and therefore to tight.
Not much straight punching and no infight ability
Extremely likeable fellow though

His left jab is the most powerful i have ever seen.....knocked some guys out with it....

bigG · 07-10-2007, 05:52 AM

..he would wreak havoc in todays division....

TBooze · 07-10-2007, 07:14 AM

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..he would wreak havoc in todays division....

To all but the top five fighters...

The Kurgan · 07-10-2007, 07:15 AM

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To all but the top five fighters...

You think the top 5 today would have an easy time with him?

ThePlugInBabies · 07-10-2007, 07:17 AM

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To all but the top five fighters...

the only one i'd be nearly 100% confident of working frank over is wlad, but oh boy if frank lands on that awful chin, then it's night night for waldo.

TBooze · 07-10-2007, 07:21 AM

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You think the top 5 today would have an easy time with him?

I think they would probably beat him; but at the very least Bruno would most certainly not 'wreak havoc' with them

TBooze · 07-10-2007, 07:23 AM

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the only one i'd be nearly 100% confident of working frank over is wlad, but oh boy if frank lands on that awful chin, then it's night night for waldo.

No, Bruno's right hand was a clubber, not a snap punch. Bruno would give Wlad a moment or two of worry, but (sadly) I would expect Wlad to win in about 11.

silverking · 07-10-2007, 07:39 AM

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Coetzee didn't have an iron chin, but it was solid enough. His KO losses usually came late when he had gassed (references: KO by 8 Page and KO by 13 Weaver) and Bruno took Coetzee out in the first with a huge right hand that had Coetzee out cold, lying halfway out of the ring. It was a very impressive KO win for Bruno.

In addition, he is one of maybe 3 guys to really rock a rampaging Tyson with a great left hook in the first round. I think he really shook up Mike more than anyone else managed to do in the 80's with that shot.

Coetzee turned up for the payday,very definitely fat man on his holidays. He was out of shape & didn't seem interested. A couple of years previously he would have handled Bruno.
Likewise Joe Bugner was well past his best. Thoughout his career Bruno was very carefully matched. Terry Lawless his manager, was renowned for picking 'soft touches' for his fighters.
Frank was a good puncher & physical specimen but never good enough to beat the top guys.

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Russell Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 12,102 vCash: 75	Frank Bruno questions... Supposedly Mr. Bruno had some of the most sickening one shot power in boxing. Didn't have the combination or speed of Tyson, but just as much if not more single shot power. I've heard that said more than once around here. What examples of it are there? Making McCall go into a shell? Shocking Tyson pretty bad? Whhhhat?
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fists of fury Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: March for Revenge Posts: 4,672 vCash: 1325	Re: Frank Bruno questions... True. I think Bruno's problem is that he froze up and let his fear get the better of him. I still think either way he loses, but he could have been more competitive had he mastered his fear.
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groove Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,028 vCash: 1000	Re: Frank Bruno questions... weaknesses - predictable, slow footwork, bad stamina in later rounds, not very smart fighter when in trouble or when he had Tyson in trouble failed to follow up and take advantage, lacked confidence against the best. strengths - good jab and powerful right hand, always in great shape, likeable fella. Maybe make the top 50.
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Raggamuffin You dipstick ESB Full Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 356 vCash: 766	Re: Frank Bruno questions... Very much musclebound and therefore to tight. Not much straight punching and no infight ability Extremely likeable fellow though
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bigG Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: wherever my mind takes me Posts: 789 vCash: 1000	Re: Frank Bruno questions... ..he would wreak havoc in todays division....
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