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Old 02-26-2013, 04:31 PM   #1
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Right we talk of early stoppages, fights going on to long. KD's that should of been. Warnings that should of been given.

Let's put ourselves in the referee's shows and spark some decent debate.

I would of used the Thompson punch if it was borderline but it's a totally legal punch IMO so i tried to find a similarish punch which was more nearer to being illegal when Enzo Mac caught Hobson in second fight and stopped him early. It was near to back of head but referee felt it was legal and Enzo won.

So had a look about and opted for Guerrero vs Berto. 1:13 onwards do you allow it as KD or call a foul and give Berto time to recover while reading riot act to Guerrero?.

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Add your own as we go along, This one's pretty cut and dry. Just couldn't get the Enzo-Hobson II clip..
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Old 02-26-2013, 04:33 PM   #2
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''I am the weferee'' .
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Old 02-26-2013, 04:43 PM   #3
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He's hitting & holding, its a clear foul & no KD. I'd have a little word with Guerrero & get the fight back on ASAP.

Here's the big one....would you have stopped Taylor vs Chavez?
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He's hitting & holding, its a clear foul & no KD. I'd have a little word with Guerrero & get the fight back on ASAP.

Here's the big one....would you have stopped Taylor vs Chavez?
I think I would of, I would have had to, it doesn't matter if its the 1st second of a round or last second of a fight, if a fighter was gone then his safety has to come first.

Difficult one though.
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Old 02-26-2013, 04:56 PM   #5
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I think I would of, I would have had to, it doesn't matter if its the 1st second of a round or last second of a fight, if a fighter was gone then his safety has to come first.

Difficult one though.
Yeah thats how I feel about it, a very controversial decision but I'm always reluctant to criticise a ref for stopping a fight a second too early. Thats always better than stopping a fight too late imo.
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I would always stop Taylor - Chavez.... ref is not the timekeeper, and you have a fighter completely unresponsive after twice being asked if hes ok.
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Taylor vs Chavez the age old question..

I'd have to say although i cannot see Taylors facial expressions and if eyes are clear from Camera angle. He didn't respond to the questions asked of him, He was taking a prolonged beating and was finally wilting so much so he went down and was distressed.

The question is: Is he in a condition to defend himself?. Well he's not answering back, He's just gone down. I'd favor the referee on this and stop the fight.

My reasoning is also boxing (12 rounds) is a 36 minute contest, contested over 3 minute rounds. There was time on the clock for a fatal blow to be thrown. As the referee your not in the bussiness of time management your job is to make sure fighters leave the ring safely. Meldrick was pretty much gone he's used ropes to help himself up. He's continued to hold the ropes as well and look away from ref. Swelling around the face as well..

Sorry Meldrick *Waves fight off and shakes head compassionately*

It's so sad looking at Meldricks life since and how things turned out..
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Taylor vs Chavez the age old question..

I'd have to say although i cannot see Taylors facial expressions and if eyes are clear from Camera angle. He didn't respond to the questions asked of him, He was taking a prolonged beating and was finally wilting so much so he went down and was distressed.

The question is: Is he in a condition to defend himself?. Well he's not answering back, He's just gone down. I'd favor the referee on this and stop the fight.

My reasoning is also boxing (12 rounds) is a 36 minute contest, contested over 3 minute rounds. There was time on the clock for a fatal blow to be thrown. As the referee your not in the bussiness of time management your job is to make sure fighters leave the ring safely. Meldrick was pretty much gone he's used ropes to help himself up. He's continued to hold the ropes as well and look away from ref. Swelling around the face as well..

Sorry Meldrick *Waves fight off and shakes head compassionately*

It's so sad looking at Meldricks life since and how things turned out..
For the people that still argue about Steele should have given Taylor a break i wonder what they would have said if the same ref had let it continue and Chavez did get another salvo off that disabled or injured or even killed Taylor.

Im guessing they would have crucified him.
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For the people that still argue about Steele should have given Taylor a break i wonder what they would have said if the same ref had let it continue and Chavez did get another salvo off that disabled or injured or even killed Taylor.

Im guessing they would have crucified him.
Agree totally he was in a no win situation there, People obviously felt Steele was under the work of King but to me 5 seconds is a long time in a ring and boxers only need half a second to land something big. I'm glad Steele called it off because he's not there to look at red lights showing time he's there to manage fighters.
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He's hitting & holding, its a clear foul & no KD. I'd have a little word with Guerrero & get the fight back on ASAP.

Here's the big one....would you have stopped Taylor vs Chavez?
Yes, Taylor was out of there. There's a gent on here who goes under the name of John Garfield, he was ringside that night, he said Taylor was a dead man walking in the latter rounds.

"YOU OKAY TAYLOR?" - Richard Steele

No response, the guy had been knocked from pillar to post, whether there had been ten minutes left, or two seconds, it was justified...and don't give me all that crap about how Taylor 'dominated', he was good for six rounds, and then he gassed. The punch that almost sparked him out (almost) in the last round was/is pretty much as good as it gets.
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Agree totally he was in a no win situation there, People obviously felt Steele was under the work of King but to me 5 seconds is a long time in a ring and boxers only need half a second to land something big. I'm glad Steele called it off because he's not there to look at red lights showing time he's there to manage fighters.
You hit the nail on the head there..
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Its a job I wouldn't like to do plus I don't think I would be any good at it, its ok looking back at footage and saying when a fight should be stopped but **** being in that ring wrapped up in the moment and having to make that call, that's a responsibility I couldn't cope with.
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Agree totally he was in a no win situation there, People obviously felt Steele was under the work of King but to me 5 seconds is a long time in a ring and boxers only need half a second to land something big. I'm glad Steele called it off because he's not there to look at red lights showing time he's there to manage fighters.
Sad as I am I timed how long it took for Don Curry to walk the full diagonal of the ring to get to Milton McCrory to deliver the fight ending combo. Something like 1 second and Curry was in no particular rush either so there was enough of time for that Chavez-taylor fight to end in tragedy.

And its not as if Steele was the timekeeper in any case!
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Its a job I wouldn't like to do plus I don't think I would be any good at it, its ok looking back at footage and saying when a fight should be stopped but **** being in that ring wrapped up in the moment and having to make that call, that's a responsibility I couldn't cope with.
I'd like to see you referee Cleverly's next fight. I'm sure you'd be fair
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I'd like to see you referee Cleverly's next fight. I'm sure you'd be fair
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