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Old 02-19-2013, 03:38 PM   #31
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In your mind it might be but here in reality it has nothing to do with that, many boxers say all kinds of outlandish things and fans don't make unrealistic demands on them.
What? Unrealistic demands? Fighting a guy in a division that he's already fought in.
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:38 PM   #32
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Well, that's for him to decide isn't it. If he says he can then he can.
Do you not remember Chad Dawson?
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But Floyd doesn't want any of that fight anyway, so it's all moot.

Anyway, if he's struggling to make the weight he can just decide not to bother and weigh in at 156lbs and pay Floyd some money, because that's completely fine, isn't it?
naw that's be messed up and it was messed up when Floyd did it too.


in any case, I do want this fight and I think Floyd beats him at 154.
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:39 PM   #33
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Do you not remember Chad Dawson?

naw that's be messed up and it was messed up when Floyd did it too.


in any case, I do want this fight and I think Floyd beats him at 154.
what about at 157?
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:39 PM   #34
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Theres the flip side too. People who dont seemt o be fans of the sport at all, but who really hate one particular guy, be it Floyd,Pacman, Ward, Klitschkos etc.
From pretty much everything I've seen, that hatred is part and parcel of people who are fans of one fighter. Fan of one fighter, hate everyone else.
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:40 PM   #35
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Back in 2009 with Floyd and Marquez
and everyone made fun of it
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:40 PM   #36
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I'm sure HE THINKS he can make 154 and I'm sure he's being 100% truthful. But he closer to 40 than he is 30. Plus he's been at middleweight for a while. I don't think he can actually make 154 anymore
I don't agree with you on this bball.

Martinez made 154lb about 3 years ago. And even for several fights at middleweight, most recently against Macklin, he weighed in at 157.5lbs Weighing in at 2.5lbs below 160 doesn't suggest to me that he is a full middleweight. He probably didn't even have to dehydrate. I mean, why would he if he had so much of a gap in weight.

If he says he can make it I believe him. The guy is a fitness freak and knows his body.

Respect your opinion though. Maybe you have a point. If he wasn't so old i would love him to fight once at 154lb and then fight Mayweather.
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I don't know when the transition happened but I swear, boxing now if full of fans of fighters rather than fans of the sport.
It has been that way since I can remember. I remember people only watching when Chavez (Sr.) or Tyson fight, and always having an excuse when they lose.

I would love to see this fight, but really only at 160. I don't know if Floyd could do 160 and don't blame him if he doesn't. I don't wanna see Martinez fight at 154 he's THE Middle weight champ. He brings prestige back to the division.
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Do you not remember Chad Dawson?

naw that's be messed up and it was messed up when Floyd did it too.


in any case, I do want this fight and I think Floyd beats him at 154.


I take the point about Chad Dawson and I did have the same thing in mind. I don't detract anything from Ward's win though. Dawson called him out at that weight and got his azz beat.
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I take the point about Chad Dawson and I did have the same thing in mind. I don't detract anything from Ward's win though. Dawson called him out at that weight and got his azz beat.
Not too different from what Martinez has been doing
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I have to say though, on the reverse, Martinez is fighting one weight class below the most stacked division in boxing . . . .
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Not too different from what Martinez has been doing
That's what I mean though. If he says he can make the weight, make the fight . . .
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Can you remind me the last time Martinez made 154lb's?

Floyd is a former champion at 135lbs should he be fighting Broner? Because they are both 135lb fighters right and both on the P4P lists right?

Demand Martinez fight at 154lb first once he does that and wins and doesn't look dead at the weight then I will be screaming with you for the fight
Floyd last fought at 135lbs 10 years ago. He also failed to make a catch weight against Marquez proving he isn't in fact a small 147lb fighter. Martinez last fought at 154lb 3 years ago. He has also never missed weight and two fights ago weighed in at 157.5 for a middlweight bout.

Stop making shit comparisons you tool.
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:45 PM   #43
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What? Unrealistic demands? Fighting a guy in a division that he's already fought in.
Like I said let Martinez take a fight at 154lbs and look good and I have no problem in asking for the fight.

Sergio imho isn't serious about the Floyd fight ofcourse he would take it if he got it, but if he really wanted it I suggest he drop down to 154lbs fight some names beat them up and stake his claim for the fight.

You are being unrealistic asking a fighter who has never weighed 152lbs to take on someone who weighed 159lbs for their last fight.

No one else is asked to do this no one!
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:46 PM   #44
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I have to say though, on the reverse, Martinez is fighting one weight class below the most stacked division in boxing . . . .
One division below is also quite loaded. He rather be the king of a relatively empty division.
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:48 PM   #45
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Like I said let Martinez take a fight at 154lbs and look good and I have no problem in asking for the fight.

Sergio imho isn't serious about the Floyd fight ofcourse he would take it if he got it, but if he really wanted it I suggest he drop down to 154lbs fight some names beat them up and stake his claim for the fight.

You are being unrealistic asking a fighter who has never weighed 152lbs to take on someone who weighed 159lbs for their last fight.

No one else is asked to do this no one!
Wasnt Pacquiao outweighed by 17 pounds on fight night when he fought Margarito? I dont see the problem here
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