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Old 02-20-2013, 12:19 PM   #1
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Default A Question regarding Nonito..

Genuine question.

Michael Bazzel is Donaire's strenght and conditioning coach. What does Victor Conte do with Donaire?

Nutritionist?

In Donaire's words he 'aids him with his recovery'.


And people are more suspicious of Heredia than this guy?

Heredia does months of actual physical training with Marquez. Conte supplies Donaire with 'Nutritional supplements'.

Berto works with Conte and we know what happened to him. Was his awful performance against Guerrero down to being PED-free after his ban?


Is the reason Donaire is so quick to demand testing and denounce PEDs because it's an effective way to remove suspicion from himself, and he/they know how to avoid detection?



Not accusing anyone of anything, but it makes me wonder. There's so many double standards here regarding PED use. I think, if you're going to accuse anyone, Conte should be first on the list.
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:21 PM   #2
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Conte gives Nonito supplements & provides the testing that proves Nonito is clean.

Make of that what you will.
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:22 PM   #3
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Conte gives Nonito supplements & provides the testing that proves Nonito is clean.

Make of that what you will.

Hold on.. Conte is the one providing the testing for Nonito?
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:25 PM   #4
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Incorrect. Only USada and vada officiallys can oversee the test
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:26 PM   #5
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Hold on.. Conte is the one providing the testing for Nonito?
Who do you think set up VADA?
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:31 PM   #6
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Default Re: A Question regarding Nonito..

Why do you think Nonito agrees to VADA 24/7 ?
Who is behind VADA? What exactly is Conte's involvement with Nonito ?
What failed between Berto and Conte? How did he test positive?
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:32 PM   #7
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I love how people are trying to throw stones at the only boxer willing to be tested 365 days a year. We should want more boxers to be like him
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:35 PM   #8
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I love how people are trying to throw stones at the only boxer willing to be tested 365 days a year. We should want more boxers to be like him
We should also see athletes not associated with convicted drug dealers like Conte.It helps to clear the atmosphere around doping.
Conte shouldn't be around any athletes, period.
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:35 PM   #9
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For all its worth,it was VADA that caught peterson and berto. Not USADA.

And USADA had an issue regarding their relationship with GBP.
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:36 PM   #10
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I love how people are trying to throw stones at the only boxer willing to be tested 365 days a year. We should want more boxers to be like him
Are you saying all boxers should get their tests & supplements from the same guy?

Doesnt sound like a wonderful idea to me.
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:57 PM   #11
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Genuine question.

Michael Bazzel is Donaire's strenght and conditioning coach. What does Victor Conte do with Donaire?

Nutritionist?

In Donaire's words he 'aids him with his recovery'.


And people are more suspicious of Heredia than this guy?

Heredia does months of actual physical training with Marquez. Conte supplies Donaire with 'Nutritional supplements'.

Berto works with Conte and we know what happened to him. Was his awful performance against Guerrero down to being PED-free after his ban?


Is the reason Donaire is so quick to demand testing and denounce PEDs because it's an effective way to remove suspicion from himself, and he/they know how to avoid detection?



Not accusing anyone of anything, but it makes me wonder. There's so many double standards here regarding PED use. I think, if you're going to accuse anyone, Conte should be first on the list.
It was Conte's VADA that cought Berto.
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:05 PM   #12
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On the whole Berto thing....wasnt he exonerated?

People keep saying he was caught, but last time I checked, he was completely cleared.

Also Conte has a whole line of supplements,that you can now buy in the shops. Its not like he;s cooking up special potions for his fighters.

The fact is that the guy knows what hes doing, the science behind recovery etc.

Since the BALCO thing, he hasnt been suspected of anything. In fact,it would be idiotic of him to do anything since hes under such a microscope.

Far more than anyone else around the industry.
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:07 PM   #13
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Well, he's been seen providing Donaire with equipment for training and recovery, so its more than just nutrition.

I'd consider him the same as I do Angel, two men convicted that likely never want to be in any sort of trouble again.

Completely agree on the double-standards though.
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:09 PM   #14
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Default Re: A Question regarding Nonito..

One more thing, people change. Conte might have changed his views.

It's like saying Tyson once mugged old ladies to take their groceries, he's still doing it.
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On the whole Berto thing....wasnt he exonerated?

People keep saying he was caught, but last time I checked, he was completely cleared.
Who was he actually cleared by aside from Conte, who immediately took to Twitter declaring it was contaminated supplements that he didn't give Berto and then denied having anything to do with that camp altogether?

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Also Conte has a whole line of supplements,that you can now buy in the shops. Its not like he;s cooking up special potions for his fighters.
He's always had legitimate projects going on alongside his cheating.

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The fact is that the guy knows what hes doing, the science behind recovery etc.

Since the BALCO thing, he hasnt been suspected of anything. In fact,it would be idiotic of him to do anything since hes under such a microscope.

Far more than anyone else around the industry.
One could write exactly the same three sentences about Heredia, yet he gets suspected of everything and Conte nothing, largely in my opinion because the latter gives boxing reporters constant interview and information.
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