Brian Rose to headline Matchroom show at the Winter Gardens Blackpool on April 20th!! - Page 2

Smoggy7188 · 02-21-2013, 03:59 PM

Ochieng/Carruthers is on barker undercard. Rose will relinquish british sooner rather than later and let the eagle fight for vacant title. Rose will fight a few international opponents to get an ibf ranking and go that way.

thewinfella · 02-21-2013, 04:05 PM

Ochieng would school Rose IMHO, I dont see Rose getting an IBF ranking, he'll lose along the way.

Better option is having Rose in solid domestic fights such as Ochieng, its more appealing than having him fight Internationally IMO.

Smoggy7188 · 02-21-2013, 04:16 PM

Id say Rose/Ochieng is a 50/50 fight. Ochieng has the skill whereas rose has a good engine and bit of power.

Jonsey · 02-21-2013, 04:19 PM

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Is he? I didnt know that

He said on twitter he wants Rose for Ochieng, they went back and forth if i remember, Hearn saying he'd make the fight in a heartbeat and having a pop at Maloney

i wouldn't say hes not a man of his word if he doesn't make the fight.

Jonsey · 02-21-2013, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by thewinfella

Ochieng would school Rose IMHO, I dont see Rose getting an IBF ranking, he'll lose along the way.

Better option is having Rose in solid domestic fights such as Ochieng, its more appealing than having him fight Internationally IMO.

its not difficult to get a ranking?

thewinfella · 02-21-2013, 04:28 PM

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i wouldn't say hes not a man of his word if he doesn't make the fight.

Neither would I TBH, timing may be an issue, he will look to make the fight if he's got sense, Rose has a decent fanbase, Ochieng is a talent, above anything its just a very good fight!

Smoggy7188 · 02-21-2013, 04:30 PM

Interesting that Khans date has now been moved from 20th to 27th.

Jonsey · 02-21-2013, 04:35 PM

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Neither would I TBH, timing may be an issue, he will look to make the fight if he's got sense, Rose has a decent fanbase, Ochieng is a talent, above anything its just a very good fight!

Ochieng has a pretty decent fan base also. at the moment its a low level main event or decent undercard fight. but it could be built into a big fight. perhaps not a mega fight but look how big Brook vs Hatton became.

i don't think Rose is amazing but if you look at the IBF Champion Corneliius Bundrage, you would fancy Rose's chances especially if the fight was in the UK.

If I were Hearn I would build up Rose by fighting International opponents with decent rankings that have some name value. Carlos Quintana would be a solid opponent for April 20th. Then get Ochieng the vacant British, theres a number of 50-50 fights at that level for him. Then in 2014 you have both guys in a position where a fight between them is a world title eliminator and sells a ton of tickets.

thewinfella · 02-21-2013, 04:52 PM

I think we have Rose in seperate regard

Bundrage IMHO would do a number on him, Quintana is done so yes if the fight took place in the UK Rose could pose the question!

I honestly think Ochieng would beat him handily in a good fight, I dont see Rose progressing to world level so I'd like to see him in good solid domestic fights defending that British title. Best of luck to Brian Rose BTW he's a likeable lad, hard worker, in great shape, I wish him well

Jonsey · 02-21-2013, 04:55 PM

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I think we have Rose in seperate regard

Bundrage IMHO would do a number on him, Quintana is done so yes if the fight took place in the UK Rose could pose the question!

I honestly think Ochieng would beat him handily in a good fight, I dont see Rose progressing to world level so I'd like to see him in good solid domestic fights defending that British title. Best of luck to Brian Rose BTW he's a likeable lad, hard worker, in great shape, I wish him well

But if your Rose, you have won the British title outright, against solid opponents. So he has every right to progress.

Jack · 02-21-2013, 06:41 PM

Ochieng is quite a few fights away from deserving a shot at Rose. Ochieng is ready for the British level whereas Rose is ready to move onto the world stage. Their fights against Maxwell showed that, right now, Rose is a level above.

thewinfella · 02-22-2013, 03:02 AM

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But if your Rose, you have won the British title outright, against solid opponents. So he has every right to progress.

He certainly does like i said i wish him well, look at Ricky Burns.

brown bomber · 02-22-2013, 03:16 AM

Excellent fighter Brian trained with him since he was about 8

Jonsey · 02-22-2013, 03:19 AM

Jeffro what happend with Kenny Anderson will he be back?

Jonny5-9 · 02-22-2013, 04:58 AM

I like Brian Rose but he couldnt punch his way out of a wet paper bag. He just doenst have the power to compete at high level.

02-21-2013, 03:59 PM	#16
Smoggy7188 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 4,404 vCash: 500	Re: Brian Rose to headline Matchroom show at the Winter Gardens Blackpool on April 20 Ochieng/Carruthers is on barker undercard. Rose will relinquish british sooner rather than later and let the eagle fight for vacant title. Rose will fight a few international opponents to get an ibf ranking and go that way.
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02-21-2013, 04:05 PM	#17
thewinfella The Golden Boy East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: UK Posts: 7,223 vCash: 75	Re: Brian Rose to headline Matchroom show at the Winter Gardens Blackpool on April 20 Ochieng would school Rose IMHO, I dont see Rose getting an IBF ranking, he'll lose along the way. Better option is having Rose in solid domestic fights such as Ochieng, its more appealing than having him fight Internationally IMO.
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02-21-2013, 04:16 PM	#18
Smoggy7188 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 4,404 vCash: 500	Re: Brian Rose to headline Matchroom show at the Winter Gardens Blackpool on April 20 Id say Rose/Ochieng is a 50/50 fight. Ochieng has the skill whereas rose has a good engine and bit of power.
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Smoggy7188 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 4,404 vCash: 500	Re: Brian Rose to headline Matchroom show at the Winter Gardens Blackpool on April 20 Interesting that Khans date has now been moved from 20th to 27th.
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02-21-2013, 04:52 PM	#24
thewinfella The Golden Boy East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: UK Posts: 7,223 vCash: 75	Re: Brian Rose to headline Matchroom show at the Winter Gardens Blackpool on April 20 I think we have Rose in seperate regard Bundrage IMHO would do a number on him, Quintana is done so yes if the fight took place in the UK Rose could pose the question! I honestly think Ochieng would beat him handily in a good fight, I dont see Rose progressing to world level so I'd like to see him in good solid domestic fights defending that British title. Best of luck to Brian Rose BTW he's a likeable lad, hard worker, in great shape, I wish him well
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02-21-2013, 06:41 PM	#26
Jack P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: England Posts: 18,878 vCash: 15000	Re: Brian Rose to headline Matchroom show at the Winter Gardens Blackpool on April 20 Ochieng is quite a few fights away from deserving a shot at Rose. Ochieng is ready for the British level whereas Rose is ready to move onto the world stage. Their fights against Maxwell showed that, right now, Rose is a level above.
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02-22-2013, 03:16 AM	#28
brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 20,405 vCash: 1000	Re: Brian Rose to headline Matchroom show at the Winter Gardens Blackpool on April 20 Excellent fighter Brian trained with him since he was about 8
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02-22-2013, 03:19 AM	#29
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02-22-2013, 04:58 AM	#30
Jonny5-9 Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 278 vCash: 500	Re: Brian Rose to headline Matchroom show at the Winter Gardens Blackpool on April 20 I like Brian Rose but he couldnt punch his way out of a wet paper bag. He just doenst have the power to compete at high level.
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