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Old 02-24-2013, 02:27 PM   #16
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Malik Scott should be in everyone's top 10 after last night.

Staggering that people still rank Chagaev. It's not 2007 any more guys!
your right about Chagaev im gonna drop him lower.

No way Scott is top 15. He has one win from last night (scored a draw) that was against a non top 15 fighter. thats it.
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Old 02-24-2013, 02:34 PM   #17
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whats that got to do with potential?
Because the only vague argument to place Haye over Povetkin is something ridiculous like "becuase Haye beats him head to head". CV wise recent and all together puts Povetkin clearly ahead of Haye.
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Old 02-24-2013, 02:46 PM   #18
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Because the only vague argument to place Haye over Povetkin is something ridiculous like "becuase Haye beats him head to head". CV wise recent and all together puts Povetkin clearly ahead of Haye.
Since Haye moved up to Heavyweight he has been more impressive. Povetkins wins over Eddie Chambers and Chris Byrd were over 5 years ago.

1. Haye Win TKO5 Chisora
2. Povetkin Win UD12 Chagaev
3. Haye Win MD12 Valuev
4. Haye Win TKO9 Ruiz
5. Povetkin Win KO8 Boswell
6. Haye Win TKO5 Barrett
7. Haye Loss UD12 W.Klitscko
8. Povetkin Win MD Huck
9. Povetkin Win UD
9. Povetkin Win TKO2 Rahman
10. Povetkin Win UD10 Estrada
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Old 02-24-2013, 02:51 PM   #19
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My Updated HW Rankings

Heavyweight World Champion: Wladimir Klitschko (WBA, IBF, WBO)
2. Vitali Klitschko (WBC)
3. David Haye
4. Alexander Povetkin
5. Kurbat Purlev
6. Chris Arreolla
7. Tony Thompson
8. Odlanier Solis
9. Tyson Fury
10. Eddie Chambers
11. Steve Cunningham
12. Tomasz Adamek
13. Ruslan Chasaev
14. Dereck Chisora
15. Robert Helenius
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Old 02-24-2013, 02:56 PM   #20
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Since Haye moved up to Heavyweight he has been more impressive. Povetkins wins over Eddie Chambers and Chris Byrd were over 5 years ago.

1. Haye Win TKO5 Chisora
2. Povetkin Win UD12 Chagaev
3. Haye Win MD12 Valuev
4. Haye Win TKO9 Ruiz
5. Povetkin Win KO8 Boswell
6. Haye Win TKO5 Barrett
7. Haye Loss UD12 W.Klitscko
8. Povetkin Win MD Huck
9. Povetkin Win UD
9. Povetkin Win TKO2 Rahman
10. Povetkin Win UD10 Estrada
What a load of nonsense. A near shut out defeat counts as one of Haye's high points? This doesn't even deserve a proper rebuttal.
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Old 02-24-2013, 03:01 PM   #21
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What a load of nonsense. A near shut out defeat counts as one of Haye's high points? This doesn't even deserve a proper rebuttal.
A 12 round loss to Wladamir Klitscko is better than win over Estrada and Rahman in my opinion.
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A 12 round loss to Wladamir Klitscko is better than win over Estrada and Rahman in my opinion.
Right. So all Povetkin has to do is get KO'd by Wladimir in the summer to overtake Haye.
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Old 02-24-2013, 03:05 PM   #23
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Solis? Helenius? Chagaev??

Who makes those lists??
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Old 02-24-2013, 03:07 PM   #24
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Solis? Helenius? Chagaev??

Who makes those lists??
who goes ahead of them?

if this was yesterday you would have asked where Price and laughed at Tony Thompson
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your right about Chagaev im gonna drop him lower.

No way Scott is top 15. He has one win from last night (scored a draw) that was against a non top 15 fighter. thats it.
Many people did have Glazkov in their top 15, and the fact it was scored a draw is irrelevant, he clearly won.

How many of your top 15 actually have wins over top 15 fighters? Arreola, who you rank at #6, has not beaten anyone near Glazkov's class. Nor has Solis.
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Old 02-24-2013, 03:27 PM   #26
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Right. So all Povetkin has to do is get KO'd by Wladimir in the summer to overtake Haye.
No because that would be worse than Hayes UD Loss. Povetkin needs to beat more top 15 ranked fighters in impressive fashion.

Ruiz, Valuev and Chisora were all top 15 when Haye beat them. Povetkin has only beaten Chagaev in the last 5 years.
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No because that would be worse than Hayes UD Loss. Povetkin needs to beat more top 15 ranked fighters in impressive fashion.

Ruiz, Valuev and Chisora were all top 15 when Haye beat them. Povetkin has only beaten Chagaev in the last 5 years.
Chisora top 15? In what exactly? The Chisora scalp is on par with Povetkin's over Boswell at best.
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Old 02-24-2013, 03:35 PM   #28
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Chisora top 15? In what exactly? The Chisora scalp is on par with Povetkin's over Boswell at best.
nope. Chisora was coming of a win over Helenius and he was highly competitive vs Vitali. Haye beat him up and stopped him in 5.
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nope. Chisora was coming of a win over Helenius and he was highly competitive vs Vitali. Haye beat him up and stopped him in 5.
That didn't answer my question. Where was he ranked top 15 by anybody? You seem to have also missed out where he got the **** beat out of him by the fat, alcoholic, novice version of Tyson Fury.

"Highly competitive vs Vitali". Is Wach top 10 as well then for his performance against the actual champ?
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Old 02-24-2013, 03:46 PM   #30
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That didn't answer my question. Where was he ranked top 15 by anybody? You seem to have also missed out where he got the **** beat out of him by the fat, alcoholic, novice version of Tyson Fury.

"Highly competitive vs Vitali". Is Wach top 10 as well then for his performance against the actual champ?
by the Unofficial Rankings.
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