Who are your favourite muay thai/kick boxing fighters?

[mantis_boxing]

Originally Posted by Raggamuffin

I disagree here. It was a lousy fight by Drago who was clearly not his usual fighting self. He seemed off and flat, this compared to his usual"in your face"kinda style
Zambidis is a good little fighter but against a Drago on a good night he would have had it a lot tougher

Zabidis did have it tough that night. Drago was "in your face" as always but like in last year's semi-final against Por Pramuk, he just got out-fought by a more technical stylist who instead of backing down to his physical style gave just as much if not more than Drago was able to dish. Drago is a top level kickboxer but compared to technicians like Buakaw and Zambidis, he sometimes comes off looking primitive.

[Raggamuffin]

Originally Posted by mantis_boxing

Zabidis did have it tough that night. Drago was "in your face" as always but like in last year's semi-final against Por Pramuk, he just got out-fought by a more technical stylist who instead of backing down to his physical style gave just as much if not more than Drago was able to dish. Drago is a top level kickboxer but compared to technicians like Buakaw and Zambidis, he sometimes comes off looking primitive.

That is true, he still seems a bit raw but his style would give anyone trouble. Esspecially over 5 rounds(not K1 rules)

[Diomedes]

Remy Bonjasky
Jerome LeBanner

[ravtrav]

Originally Posted by Beebs

Peter Aerts by a decent margin


Benny "The Jet" Urquidez, yea he was ****y but he was a pioneer and often overlooked as an MMA Pioneer with his Judo game (****ing sick SeoNage at 3:20)


Benny vs Shinobu Onuki (The Judo Throw Match)

THIS IS A DUMB QUESTION BUT WAS THAT ALLOWED ( THE THROW ). THAT THROW HURT ME WATCHING IT.

[Dekkers]

Originally Posted by voodoo5

Amongst thai fighters, Kaman is top 3 or 4 of all time.
In our gym he is close to godlike.

It's hard for a western fighter to get the respect of the Thais, Benny the Jet for example never got it.

P.S. I remember you putting up a poster for one of your fights here on the forums a while back, how did it go Voodoo?

[Beebs]

Originally Posted by ravtrav

THIS IS A DUMB QUESTION BUT WAS THAT ALLOWED ( THE THROW ). THAT THROW HURT ME WATCHING IT.

No it wasn't, and it was called a no contest or a DQ, I forget. But in his defense the rules were not particularly clear if I remeber the story right, something about the knees from the clinch making Benny think throws were legal, I really don't remeber. Throws are generally allowed in full on Muay Thai, but you never really see anything like that.

[ravtrav]

Originally Posted by Beebs

No it wasn't, and it was called a no contest or a DQ, I forget. But in his defense the rules were not particularly clear if I remeber the story right, something about the knees from the clinch making Benny think throws were legal, I really don't remeber. Throws are generally allowed in full on Muay Thai, but you never really see anything like that.

[cross_trainer]

Originally Posted by Beebs

No it wasn't, and it was called a no contest or a DQ, I forget. But in his defense the rules were not particularly clear if I remeber the story right, something about the knees from the clinch making Benny think throws were legal, I really don't remeber. Throws are generally allowed in full on Muay Thai, but you never really see anything like that.

Muay Thai has limitations on what types of throws are permitted, if I recollect.

[avk47]

I thought Ignashov was awesome once, and he's still pretty young. Any one know what the hell happened that he is really underperforming?

[Raggamuffin]

Ignashov was always a hot/cold kinda fighter. He doesn't really give it his best it seems

[Dekkers]

Originally Posted by avk47

I thought Ignashov was awesome once, and he's still pretty young. Any one know what the hell happened that he is really underperforming?

I know he had a bad knee injury, I believe he had that operated on (though he had a fight he went into with the injury for legal reasons), that was a couple of years ago. Perhaps he never completely recovered from it

[Dekkers]

Another great fighter that deserves a mention is Jomhod. There was an 'Australia vs Thailand' kickboxing even held down here over a decade ago. Jomhod was matched up against a young Paul Briggs (who was embarking on his first career as a muay thai fighter). I give Paul credit since he must've been 17 years old or so and impressed me more than anyone else on the Australian team, but he didn't have the toughness or conditioning of the Thais at the time, and Jomhod just destroyed him with leg kicks.

Later on Paul went to Thailand to train at the same camp as Jomhod before winning a world title

[Dekkers]

May as well stir some shit about Benny the Jet while i'm at it

From

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In the late 1970's Benny "The Jet" Urquidez faced Prayoud Sittiboonlert of Thailand in Japan. The rules in this encounter allowed the use of knees. Sittiboonlert was not the current Muay Thai Champion. Nevertheless, he punished Urquidez so bad that Urquidez's cornermen threw in the towel at the end of Round 2. In the picture (left), Sittiboonlert throws a brutal Thai kick to Urquidez's legs. What upsets me about the Urquidez publicists is the fact that they totally try to hide the result of this match. In the December 1998 issue of Black Belt Magazine (pages 33-34), Floyd Burk wrote: "Urquidez was so 'bad' that he could go to any country on earth, fight anybody he was paired up with according to their rules - and beat the living daylights out of them . . . Thai boxing-style leg whips and elbow and knee strikes, made it impossible for Urquidez's opponents to plan an effective strategy against him. They tried, but not a single one could do it." I've had enough of such false information surrounding Urquidez's misrepresented undefeated record and his false claims of having faced kickboxing opponents under any rules. For one, Sittiboonlert beat Benny soundly. Benny could not continue into the third round. Secondly, the WKA later ruled the fight a "no-contest" because they wanted to protect the record of their boy. How could someone not have a "lost" on their record if their cornermen threw in the towel? Third, Benny did not want anything to do with having to fight against a Muay Thai fighter in Thailand (especially with knees, elbows, and clinching). He repeatedly rejected any further challenges. To Urquidez's publicists and future publicists, if you want to say that Urquidez was a Full-Contact Karate Champion, then that's okay - you would have my respect. But don't try to misinform the public by saying that Benny was an undefeated World Champion in the ring who beat all of his ring challengers. He never stepped into Thailand and his lost to Sittiboonlert was never on his record. I don't know if Benny is responsible for the misrepresentation. But his publicists need to start telling the truth. I apologize for the rather rude connotation of this statement, but I've tolerated the lack of respect towards Thai Boxers from Urquidez's crew for more than a decade and it's time to show the world the truth. It is disrespectful to lose to an opponent or to refuse the challenges of a legitimate challenger and talk as if you have conquered them. That is disrespect to Sittiboonlert! That is disrespect to Muay Thai! And I'm not just speaking for the Muay Thai community in Thailand, but for the many Muay Thai practitioners in the USA, Europe, Asia, Australia, and New Zealand.

[Donut62]

Supposedly Ignashov is a raging alcoholic.

[Dekkers]

Originally Posted by Donut62

Supposedly Ignashov is a raging alcoholic.

He's Russian, these people invented the 'alco-movie' (a movie consisting entirely of two people drinking) and considered it a 'great cultural contribution'.