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Old 02-25-2013, 01:22 AM   #1
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Default Pure punching power....do many top mma and k1 guys hit harder then boxers

I am sure that i will be attacked here by everyone here but hear me out....


1.ofcourse boxers are skilled in boxing and in general when it come punching, footwork and defense, they are specialists at this


2. i box but also have done other stuff so i have a bit of experience in what i am talking about

3. k1 fighters, are usually a mixture of muay thai and boxing, with a bit of karate
which has become modern european kickboxing

4. preety much every mma fighter trains boxing,thai,bjj and wrestling.



all that said now again there will be more ko's in mma because of the small gloves and more weapons and guys dont have as good punching defense

and in k1, the defense issue comes in and fighters are pushed to be exciting etc....


this is all clear, and boxers being specialists in punching
should be the greatest punchers, which in skill ofcourse
but are they in punching power????


in mma some of these guys are sick punchers and you see many one punch ko's-quick hard kos and you see them in k1 as well with the big gloves


granted i already mentioned the defense issue
but lets clear some things up

in many boxing matches, you see stats
where one fighter landed 278 power punches and the other
199,

and both have no visible damage, there is something odd here



now from training i can see why this can be the case


how many times have coaches say these things

- dont concreate on hitting hard
speed is power
it just matters where you hit the guy
not how hard you swing


while having trained with some mma guys
there is more of an attuide
of smashing the pads
getting all you power into a shot


so is it a shock that some of them may
end being the harder puncher
compared to someone who was taught speed and accuracy are the important
thing




interesting enough some the mma fighters like micheal bisping who have more text book boxing style are rarely the guys causing the big ko's.....
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:28 AM   #2
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Default Re: Pure punching power....do many top mma and k1 guys hit harder then boxers

Just for me, punching power is inborn and it doesn't matter what sport you're in, if you can take a guy out with one punch you will.

However, in MMA's case, the smaller gloves really helped in increasing the impact of the punches, plus the ruling of stopping a fight even without giving a downed fighter a chance to get up with a mandatory count, gives the impression that MMA fighters are bigger punchers than they are.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:37 AM   #3
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Any fool can punch, not many can box.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:39 AM   #4
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Any fool can punch, not many can box.

This is the right answer. End thread.
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Old 02-25-2013, 02:10 AM   #5
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Any fool can punch, not many can box.
I've heard this many times before, but IMO anyone can punch but not everyone can be known as a "puncher" in other words of course you can throw punches but not everyone can throw one punch ko shots like that of a tommy hearns
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Old 02-25-2013, 02:40 AM   #6
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Punching power is always natural... There is nothing those K1 guys do that makes them hit any harder than the average boxer... Tim Bradley, Manny Pacquiao...
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Old 02-25-2013, 02:55 AM   #7
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Old 02-25-2013, 03:47 AM   #8
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Your born with punching power.
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Old 02-25-2013, 03:56 AM   #9
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I've heard this many times before, but IMO anyone can punch but not everyone can be known as a "puncher" in other words of course you can throw punches but not everyone can throw one punch ko shots like that of a tommy hearns
Yeah, TH was a freak of nature, like Mike Tyson and RJJ.
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Old 02-25-2013, 05:49 AM   #10
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Compared to Boxing, no MMA or K1 fighter can even dare to compare his punching power to the one of a real boxer ..

For example Badr Hari, who wanted to change into boxing .. he was the best K1 fighter out there, but when he trained sparring, his unknown sparringpartner must kick his ass because after his training he decided to stay in K1.
I really want to know who his sparringpartner in boxing was ..
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I am sure that i will be attacked here by everyone here but hear me out....


1.ofcourse boxers are skilled in boxing and in general when it come punching, footwork and defense, they are specialists at this


2. i box but also have done other stuff so i have a bit of experience in what i am talking about

3. k1 fighters, are usually a mixture of muay thai and boxing, with a bit of karate
which has become modern european kickboxing

4. preety much every mma fighter trains boxing,thai,bjj and wrestling.



all that said now again there will be more ko's in mma because of the small gloves and more weapons and guys dont have as good punching defense

and in k1, the defense issue comes in and fighters are pushed to be exciting etc....


this is all clear, and boxers being specialists in punching
should be the greatest punchers, which in skill ofcourse
but are they in punching power????


in mma some of these guys are sick punchers and you see many one punch ko's-quick hard kos and you see them in k1 as well with the big gloves


granted i already mentioned the defense issue
but lets clear some things up

in many boxing matches, you see stats
where one fighter landed 278 power punches and the other
199,

and both have no visible damage, there is something odd here



now from training i can see why this can be the case


how many times have coaches say these things

- dont concreate on hitting hard
speed is power
it just matters where you hit the guy
not how hard you swing


while having trained with some mma guys
there is more of an attuide
of smashing the pads
getting all you power into a shot


so is it a shock that some of them may
end being the harder puncher
compared to someone who was taught speed and accuracy are the important
thing




interesting enough some the mma fighters like micheal bisping who have more text book boxing style are rarely the guys causing the big ko's.....
**** off homo...
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:17 AM   #12
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A couple days ago I seen a mma fight on TV and the punch stat total was about 30 punches FOR THE WHOLE FIGHT. Its clear to me that those guys are getting KO in mma because

A.They dont see the punches coming due to lack of Ring IQ.
B.They dont have High punch Resistance , compared to a boxer who takes hundreds of punches through-out a professional bout.
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:20 AM   #13
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The amount of MMA fighter's i've seen get hurt badly by a jab is kind of staggering, seems everytime i watch MMA one of these guys is getting stopped because of some jab as they rush in blindly, then follows the beatdown while they are downed
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:32 AM   #14
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Of course they do, yes technique helps improve the output of power but it's something that just comes.
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:44 AM   #15
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There are alot of brutal knock outs in MMA because their defense sucks and also they throw nothing but haymakers the whole night.
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