Heavyweight Champions--Who would be the best in MMA?

cross_trainer · 07-08-2007, 09:34 PM

Weird question: If you could match every heavyweight champion from Sullivan to Lewis in an MMA tournament (allowing them a few weeks between each "round" to recover) which fighters would be most likely to come out on top....

...and why?

Russell · 07-08-2007, 09:50 PM

Throw McCall in there.

If you gave him rudimentary grappling skills, what's anyone going to do to him?

He's quite large for MMA on the whole, and with smaller gloves his powers going to be pretty scary.

I'd throw Jerry Quarry in there too. Hardcore scrappy mother fucker.

McGrain · 07-08-2007, 09:54 PM

I guess most people are going to pick Jeffries here.

I'd pick Marciano. He's mentally so attuned to the task at hand that the change wouldn't hurt him as much as the others. He never gives up and his head is hard. Plus he has real power.

The only thing would be he may not pick up any grapping skills.

But that COULD be true of any of them, even Jeffries and Johnson.

Russell · 07-08-2007, 09:59 PM

Johnson would be like Quinton Jackson in MMA. Big, unbelievably strong black guy wrestler type.

McGrain · 07-08-2007, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Russell

Johnson would be like Quinton Jackson in MMA. Big, unbelievably strong black guy wrestler type.

Yeah, he would be good.

Bad_Intentions · 07-08-2007, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Russell

Throw McCall in there.

If you gave him rudimentary grappling skills, what's anyone going to do to him?

He's quite large for MMA on the whole, and with smaller gloves his powers going to be pretty scary.

I'd throw Jerry Quarry in there too. Hardcore scrappy mother fucker.

Duodenum · 07-08-2007, 10:44 PM

Dempsey did wrestle, as well as streetfight, and compete in bare knuckle fisticuffs. It's well known how, when he was desperate for money, Jack would go into saloons and announce "I can't sing, and I can't dance, but I can lick any SOB in the house!" If his challenge was accepted, bets would be placed. He rarely lost these barroom brawls. (This is part of his mass appeal; the fact that he could do it in the ring as well as the street.)

Jim Corbett beat the shit out of Joe Choynski in streetfights, before he kayoed him in the ring. (This was before Choynski trashed Jack Johnson in three.) Corbett might be a dark horse candidate. Foreman had superhuman strength. (Considering how easily he shoves around hulking growth substance enhanced bodybuilder types like Holyfield and Morrison with boxing gloves on, what would happen if he was wearing equipment that enabled him to grip his opponent?)

Russell · 07-08-2007, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad_Intentions

That's funny... why?

Lostmykeys · 07-09-2007, 02:41 AM

I wanna see that young gorilla like Foreman get his hands on someone in MMA.

TBooze · 07-09-2007, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by cross_trainer

Weird question: If you could match every heavyweight champion from Sullivan to Lewis in an MMA tournament (allowing them a few weeks between each "round" to recover) which fighters would be most likely to come out on top....

...and why?

Whoever they want to be sucessful, it is not real

TBooze · 07-09-2007, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Pea

WTF are you even talking about? Was that a joke or what?

Vince McMahon scripts it my friend, otherwise it would be very boring

McGrain · 07-09-2007, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TBooze

Vince McMahon scripts it my friend, otherwise it would be very boring

Even watching DRUNK, STUPID big guys fight is never "boring".

fists of fury · 07-09-2007, 05:25 AM

Tough to say, because we don't know how they would adapt to grappling.

I'd favour the strong, rugged fighters over those who boxed and moved. Guys like Frazier, Marciano, Jeffries, Tyson, maybe Sullivan, maybe Liston...those types of fighters. They have a lower centre of gravity than the tall fighters like Lewis, Ali and Klitschko and that surely could only help defending against takedowns and that sort of thing.
I think they'd make naturally better wrestlers too. I can only assume a Jeffries, Frazier or Marciano would have a more natural aptitude for grappling than an Ali or Holmes, based on strength and more of a willingness to fight in the trenches.

That's my 2c anyway.

07-09-2007, 06:17 AM

'88 Tyson.

cross_trainer · 07-09-2007, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TBooze

Vince McMahon scripts it my friend, otherwise it would be very boring

You're thinking of professional wrestling.

07-08-2007, 09:34 PM	#1
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Russell Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 12,164 vCash: 75	Re: Heavyweight Champions--Who would be the best in MMA? Throw McCall in there. If you gave him rudimentary grappling skills, what's anyone going to do to him? He's quite large for MMA on the whole, and with smaller gloves his powers going to be pretty scary. I'd throw Jerry Quarry in there too. Hardcore scrappy mother fucker.
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McGrain Diamond Dog East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 63,254 vCash: 1000	Re: Heavyweight Champions--Who would be the best in MMA? I guess most people are going to pick Jeffries here. I'd pick Marciano. He's mentally so attuned to the task at hand that the change wouldn't hurt him as much as the others. He never gives up and his head is hard. Plus he has real power. The only thing would be he may not pick up any grapping skills. But that COULD be true of any of them, even Jeffries and Johnson.
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Russell Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 12,164 vCash: 75	Re: Heavyweight Champions--Who would be the best in MMA? Johnson would be like Quinton Jackson in MMA. Big, unbelievably strong black guy wrestler type.
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Duodenum Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 6,700 vCash: 1000	Re: Heavyweight Champions--Who would be the best in MMA? Dempsey did wrestle, as well as streetfight, and compete in bare knuckle fisticuffs. It's well known how, when he was desperate for money, Jack would go into saloons and announce "I can't sing, and I can't dance, but I can lick any SOB in the house!" If his challenge was accepted, bets would be placed. He rarely lost these barroom brawls. (This is part of his mass appeal; the fact that he could do it in the ring as well as the street.) Jim Corbett beat the shit out of Joe Choynski in streetfights, before he kayoed him in the ring. (This was before Choynski trashed Jack Johnson in three.) Corbett might be a dark horse candidate. Foreman had superhuman strength. (Considering how easily he shoves around hulking growth substance enhanced bodybuilder types like Holyfield and Morrison with boxing gloves on, what would happen if he was wearing equipment that enabled him to grip his opponent?)
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Lostmykeys Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,395 vCash: 2036	Re: Heavyweight Champions--Who would be the best in MMA? I wanna see that young gorilla like Foreman get his hands on someone in MMA.
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fists of fury Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: March for Revenge Posts: 10,604 vCash: 1325	Re: Heavyweight Champions--Who would be the best in MMA? Tough to say, because we don't know how they would adapt to grappling. I'd favour the strong, rugged fighters over those who boxed and moved. Guys like Frazier, Marciano, Jeffries, Tyson, maybe Sullivan, maybe Liston...those types of fighters. They have a lower centre of gravity than the tall fighters like Lewis, Ali and Klitschko and that surely could only help defending against takedowns and that sort of thing. I think they'd make naturally better wrestlers too. I can only assume a Jeffries, Frazier or Marciano would have a more natural aptitude for grappling than an Ali or Holmes, based on strength and more of a willingness to fight in the trenches. That's my 2c anyway.
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07-09-2007, 06:17 AM	#14
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