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Old 03-03-2014, 09:31 AM   #1
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Default Steigelitz telling the media he was robbed

I say he wasn't!
I thought Robert would outbox Abraham, and send Abraham into retirement, but AA fought his heart out and had definitely the better fight plan.
Stieglitz was lucky to make the end of the fight, because if the fight lasted a minute longer, he would be knocked out!
I scored it 111-114 for Abraham.
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Old 03-03-2014, 09:49 AM   #2
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They both seemed to be susceptible to a stoppage at various points, didn't they?

Most of my attention was on Burns vs. Crawford, but every time I peeked at Stieglitz vs. Abraham one guy or the other was getting badly rocked. (or having a point taken )
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Old 03-03-2014, 01:16 PM   #3
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I had it 114-113 for Abraham.

But if not for the knockdown, which made it a 10-8 round for Abraham, I would have had Stieglitz winning the round 10-9 and winning the fight 115-113.
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Old 03-03-2014, 01:18 PM   #4
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I had it 114-113 for Abraham.

But if not for the knockdown, which made it a 10-8 round for Abraham, I would have had Stieglitz winning the round 10-9 and winning the fight 115-113.
Interesting. That's a crucial three point swing then.
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Old 03-04-2014, 01:38 AM   #5
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Didn't get to see that fight, but I read it was close, the knock down making the difference..................seems as if most believe Abraham won, but close...........
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Old 03-04-2014, 05:20 AM   #6
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Aaaaa, so we are now talking Abraham-Stieglitz IV already...
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Old 03-04-2014, 07:35 AM   #7
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Default Re: Steigelitz telling the media he was robbed

Stieglitz gassed late and had no answer for Abraham who was countering him in the infight. Stieglitz wasn't robbed at all, he just met a better man in the ring.
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Old 03-04-2014, 08:19 AM   #8
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Aaaaa, so we are now talking Abraham-Stieglitz IV already...
It was a pretty decent trilogy but please no more of this...


Also no robbery. Close fight no doubt tho
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Old 03-04-2014, 08:56 AM   #9
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Say what you want about his SMW exploits but the guy has twice won the WBO belt now & given us a decent trilogy of fights. Two weight champ no matter which way you cut it..

Ruined Dirrell, sealed the last nail in Taylors coffin & had Ward in retreat mode! Top 5 MW of his era too...Always reminded me of a smaller Marciano @ 160!

Very happy for AA, i had written him off, you can't argue with a record of 39-4
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Old 03-04-2014, 09:08 AM   #10
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Say what you want about his SMW exploits but the guy has twice won the WBO belt now & given us a decent trilogy of fights. Two weight champ no matter which way you cut it..

Ruined Dirrell, sealed the last nail in Taylors coffin & had Ward in retreat mode! Top 5 MW of his era too...Always reminded me of a smaller Marciano @ 160!

Very happy for AA, i had written him off, you can't argue with a record of 39-4
He looked completely out of his depth against Dirrell, Froch and Ward. Too bad he couldn't make MW any longer because I think he was quite a dangerous middleweight. He's nowhere near A class at 168 however.
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Old 03-04-2014, 09:36 AM   #11
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He looked completely out of his depth against Dirrell, Froch and Ward. Too bad he couldn't make MW any longer because I think he was quite a dangerous middleweight. He's nowhere near A class at 168 however.
I disagree with that, he gave Ward a decent fight & it looks like he has pretty much ruined Dirrell! His stature was always going to hinder him at 168 tho..

I do agree he is a B class SMW.
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Old 03-04-2014, 01:29 PM   #12
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It was a very hard fight to score I think, I didn't score it as I was watching Burns Crawford with a half eye, but there were loads of rounds that could've gone either way, depending on what you're looking for.
I expected Stieglitz to get the nod too or at least a draw, but in the end you have to admit that he fought an extremely stupid fight, trying to force things and leaving himself open too much.
He tried to force an outcome like in their 2nd meeting and got more and more reckless and hectic, and that cost him.
I think chances are we will see a fourth fight.
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Old 03-05-2014, 05:45 AM   #13
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It was close. But Abraham was the better man and the knockdown left no doubt about who was the winner.
Abraham has had two very bad performances - against Froch and against Stieglitz.
No surprice he got outboxed by Ward - but he did well and all the time he and was just a punch away from victory. He knocked out Dirrell and forgot he was´nt in Germany and got disqaulified. He knocked out Taylor.
I give him a lot of respect and would love to see him against Kessler, Groves, DeGale or Froch again.
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Old 03-05-2014, 07:13 AM   #14
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I disagree with that, he gave Ward a decent fight & it looks like he has pretty much ruined Dirrell! His stature was always going to hinder him at 168 tho..

I do agree he is a B class SMW.
Abraham did reasonably well for three rounds against Ward. Didn't do anything after that. The Dirrell fight was lopsided as hell with Abraham being down twice (officially once). Dirrell ruined himself there.
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Old 03-06-2014, 02:21 AM   #15
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Default Re: Steigelitz telling the media he was robbed

No I'm reading that WBO suspends one of his Judges (Paul Thomas) who scored the bout 115-110 in favor of Abraham.
Stieglitz will still be high on the WBO rankings, so probably a Abraham vs Stieglitz IV.
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