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Old 12-09-2014, 04:11 PM   #1
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Default Scoring in boxing

We all know the varients...10 point must...by rounds...California scoring...etc.
Tho I understand the logic with all of them, one thing does 'boggle' my mind on any scoring system.
Yes, the Patterson fan emerges again!
If a fighter is taking a guy apart in a round and, with 10 seconds to go, drops him with a shot, be it off balance or solid, should that automatically warrant a 10-8? or a clear round? or a 2-0 (California)?
IMO look at the body of work for the ENTIRE round, especially if the KD was of the off-balance variety.
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:34 PM   #2
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No! I really don't see the point of a 10 point must system if the 10 points aren't used. Maybe a 5 point must like they used to use. I don't like the way a knockdown is usually scored 10-8 with no regard to how the round has gone. I think if it's a close round hard to split them then 5-4. a dominant round 5-3 and a very strong round then possibly 5-2. I think a fighter can win a round even after or being being knocked down if he's won the rest of the round clearly. The way it is now even though it's called a 10 round must is based on how many rounds you win with extra points for a knockdown
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Old 12-09-2014, 07:01 PM   #3
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down is down, and putting the opponent there is one of the main goals of boxing.
If you are 'taking a guy apart' then you get dropped you shouldn't win the round imo, because you got dropped.

Off balance means nothing to me in relation to scoring, a goal from the halfway line is worth the same as a tap in, winning a motor race by a minute is the same points as winning by a second.

Not that the 10 point must system really makes any more sense than other ways of scoring fights, but we are not talking about amateur boxing.
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Old 12-10-2014, 04:35 AM   #4
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If he's not overshadowing the fighter with his boxing then the other guy overshadows him when he's "taking him apart" in the last 10 seconds.

If neither fighter can overshadow the other, a knockdown or a strong attack (however short) should be the deciding factor.

If a guy is being dominated the whole round he deserves to be back in the fight if he scores a genuine knockdown or severely shaking his opponent before the bell. I think it should be up to the judges discretion wether or not he simply evens things up or takes the round because all situations are different.
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a goal from the halfway line is worth the same as a tap in, winning a motor race by a minute is the same points as winning by a second.
Good points King; I may be destroying my own argument here but boxing is the ONLY sport I can think of where you can get your **** handed to you one-sidedly for 44:50 and win with one shot!
Another thing I'm thinking about conversely; can a fighter win a round (10 pt. must) 10-8 without a KD if you TOTALLY dominate?
I would assume it's happened a few times. Ali-Frazier FOTC 11th round comes to mind (tho that was a rounds scored fight)
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Old 12-10-2014, 07:17 PM   #6
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Good points King; I may be destroying my own argument here but boxing is the ONLY sport I can think of where you can get your **** handed to you one-sidedly for 44:50 and win with one shot!
Another thing I'm thinking about conversely; can a fighter win a round (10 pt. must) 10-8 without a KD if you TOTALLY dominate?
I would assume it's happened a few times. Ali-Frazier FOTC 11th round comes to mind (tho that was a rounds scored fight)
10-8 can be scored without a kd, pretty rare tho i think.

i would put some other fighting sports and soccer along with boxing in that regard, but that's about it.
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