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Old 03-17-2013, 05:26 PM   #31
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Old 03-17-2013, 05:26 PM   #32
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Yes but the 2nd round was a 10-8 without a KD. Bradley was hurt bad for an entire minute, getting tagged left and right, and drifting back to the ropes.
You would think that if there was any round you would score 10-8 it would be the 1st not the 2nd round simply based on a KD with a delayed reaction...

Just saying... Not questioning your card just wondering how you didnt score the first round 10-8 as well
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Old 03-17-2013, 05:28 PM   #33
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You would think that if there was any round you would score 10-8 it would be the 1st not the 2nd round simply based on a KD with a delayed reaction...

Just saying... Not questioning your card just wondering how you didnt score the first round 10-8 as well
Well a judge can't call a knockdown on their own if the ref says no KD, but they can call a 10-8 base on how dominant one fighter was. So if he's going by what a judge following the ref would have to score, it makes sense.
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Old 03-17-2013, 05:30 PM   #34
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You would think that if there was any round you would score 10-8 it would be the 1st not the 2nd round simply based on a KD with a delayed reaction...

Just saying... Not questioning your card just wondering how you didnt score the first round 10-8 as well
Because the KD was officially NOT ruled, even if I 100% believe it was, in addition to Bradley having landed enough good shots himself in that round (as opposed to the 2nd) and because the offensive onslaught by Provodnikov wasn't nearly as long and punishing in the first.
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Old 03-17-2013, 05:33 PM   #35
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When it comes to KD's, you've got to go by what the ref rules.

Like in Mares/Moreno. Mares hurts Moreno, and between the final legal punch landing and Moreno going down, Mares manages to land a bunch square on the back of Moreno's butt cheek. So, according to those who don't follow the ref's judgement of a KD, I should have scored that round 10-9 to Moreno? Or 10-9 to Mares at best?

No. Even if they're wrong, you follow what the ref rules.
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Old 03-17-2013, 05:35 PM   #36
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You would think that if there was any round you would score 10-8 it would be the 1st not the 2nd round simply based on a KD with a delayed reaction...

Just saying... Not questioning your card just wondering how you didnt score the first round 10-8 as well
I disagree with you here. It wasn't clear-cut really. Bradley was hurt and went down but I don't know if you can just overrule the ref. The 2nd round could easily be scored 10-8.
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Old 03-17-2013, 05:38 PM   #37
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Well a judge can't call a knockdown on their own if the ref says no KD, but they can call a 10-8 base on how dominant one fighter was. So if he's going by what a judge following the ref would have to score, it makes sense.
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I disagree with you here. It wasn't clear-cut really. Bradley was hurt and went down but I don't know if you can just overrule the ref. The 2nd round could easily be scored 10-8.
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When it comes to KD's, you've got to go by what the ref rules.

Like in Mares/Moreno. Mares hurts Moreno, and between the final legal punch landing and Moreno going down, Mares manages to land a bunch square on the back of Moreno's butt cheek. So, according to those who don't follow the ref's judgement of a KD, I should have scored that round 10-9 to Moreno? Or 10-9 to Mares at best?

No. Even if they're wrong, you follow what the ref rules.
Watch the end of round 12 and listen to what Steve Weisfeld says, he says a judge can even if the ref doesnt rule it a KD.
But you can also argue a 10-8 based on that damage in round 1 it was obvious he was hurt badly thats why I scored that a 10-8 round.
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:16 PM   #38
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10-9 ruslan
10-8 ruslan
9-10 bradley
9-9 bradley busier ruslan more powerful watch close that was even terms.
9-10 bradley
10-9 almost 10-8 bradley almost stopped again falls into ropes
9-10 bradley
9-10 bradley
9-10 bradley
9-10 bradley
10-9 ruslan
10-8 ruslan, falls into ropes

what about all the times bradley fell into the ropes, aren't those supposed to be knockdowns?

7-6 ruslan
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:18 PM   #39
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Watch the end of round 12 and listen to what Steve Weisfeld says, he says a judge can even if the ref doesnt rule it a KD.
But you can also argue a 10-8 based on that damage in round 1 it was obvious he was hurt badly thats why I scored that a 10-8 round.
and even if the ref/judges initially thought it may have been a push down the fact that Bradley got up, wobbled around like a drunk then faceplanted, got up and wobbled back into the ropes should have made it evident to anybody with the least bit of common sense that it was a knockdown.
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:20 PM   #40
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and even if the ref/judges initially thought it may have been a push down the fact that Bradley got up, wobbled around like a drunk then faceplanted, got up and wobbled back into the ropes should have made it evident to anybody with the least bit of common sense that it was a knockdown.
I counted it as a KD and still had Tim winning by two points 114-112
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:22 PM   #41
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I counted it as a KD and still had Tim winning by two points 114-112
Well ignoring what i think about your scorecard fact is for two of the judges that would have made it a draw. Really obvious and common sense thing which had a huge significance on the result. Kissing your sister is better than getting no kiss at all
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:34 PM   #42
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Bradley Provodnikov
1. 9 10
2. 9 10
3. 10 9
4. 10 9
5. 10 9
6. 9 10
7. 10 9
8. 10 9
9. 10 9
10. 10 9
11. 9 10
12. 8 10

114 113

I would have had it a draw had the knockdown been counted in round 1.
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:58 PM   #43
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1. Provodnikov [10-8]
2. Provodnikov [10-8]
3. Bradley
4. Bradley
5. Bradley
6. Provodnikov
7. Bradley
8. Bradley
9. Bradley
10. Bradley
11. Provodnikov
12. Provodnikov [10-8]

Making it a Provodnikov victory by 113-112.

Scorecards were kinda' ok. Not a robbery any means, but Bradley should consider himself fortunate to walk away with a win. Provodnikov's 5 rounds were way more dominant than Bradley's 7, and some judges not only could have gave a couple out of those 7 to Provodnikov (because they could have gone either way), but they should have at the very least awarded two of those rounds as 10-8 rounds. At least.

Edit: In fact, screw that, three of those rounds should have been definite 10-8s. Bradley was getting beaten up badly in the second.
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Old 03-17-2013, 08:36 PM   #44
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First time watching it, I had it 114-113 Bradley, only giving him one 10-8 round (the 12th). I think that's a fair scorecard even if you gave Ruslan another 10-8 round because the 6th could easily have been called 10-10 (Bradley controlled the first two minutes, and traded on even terms after getting hurt in the final minute).

No robbery or gift, imo.
Does anyone have a list of official scoring criteria

And if so, is there anything in the scoring that says that u must score a round where someone gets hurt in the opponent's favor?

If its there, than 114-113, but if not than 116-112
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Old 03-17-2013, 08:46 PM   #45
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I had it 114-113 Provodnikov
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