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Old 03-29-2013, 11:48 PM   #16
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Frazier is being underrated defensively. He didn't walk through punches, he made people miss and then slipped inside. He wasn't a fighter who took punches unnecessarily. His bobbing, weaving, head moving style provided a good defense when he was at his best.
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IMO, Frazier was quicker and more skilled than Liston on the inside. I would favor Frazier to break down Liston to a 7th or 8th round stoppage.
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:51 PM   #17
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Frazier breaks Sonny down
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Old 03-30-2013, 05:54 PM   #18
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Frazier breaks Sonny down
Absolutely. Prime Frazier is a much better fighter than Liston and he wont freeze like patterson. Frazier is not giving away so much weight either.
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Old 03-31-2013, 05:37 PM   #19
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In my opinion, Liston in his prime would destroy Frazier, but what if Liston hadn't lost to Leotis Martin in 69 and had fought Frazier in 1970. After watching the Liston vs Wepner fight I thought Liston actually looked pretty good. If they had fought in 70 does Liston become heavy weight champion again?
Liston was avoided like the plague by the 60s up and comers. Frazier, Quarry, Bonavena. That being said, it would be an interesting fight for about 5 rds. After that Listons age would begin to tell.
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Old 04-06-2013, 03:52 PM   #20
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As the other poster said, are we talking a 1970 fight or a prime vs. prime?
The answers here are confusing.
I think a prime Sonny beats a prime Joe and that's taking nothing away from Joe's GREAT legacy.
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Old 04-06-2013, 04:48 PM   #21
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prime for prime I'm I'm buying into the liston hype (sorry 'Ears).

In 70 though Joe smokes him.
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Old 04-06-2013, 05:23 PM   #22
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I like Liston but Frazier would knock him out in the first round.
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Old 04-06-2013, 08:11 PM   #23
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A peak Frazier with a referee that didn't let Foreman push Joe into position would have a shout, I think. In 1970 he batters Liston. Peak for peak, a great contest, we never saw what Sonny could do with anybody like Frazier, if he could time it and catch him with the jab, then big rights, well it's over but.... if Joe can get inside enough to land the hooks then it's a war of attrition and there's only one winner in that.
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Old 04-06-2013, 08:50 PM   #24
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Much as he was the tallest man his height and the heaviest man his weight, I suspect he was also the oldest man his age.
That's deep.
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Old 04-06-2013, 08:52 PM   #25
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Liston is a wrong style for Frazier.







But we all know that.
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