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Old 04-01-2013, 12:35 PM   #31
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it's no great surprise I mean Chavez fights at about the same weight as rocky.

I wonder how they compare height and reach wise actually?

I think draining down can limit a fighter if it isn't done correctly but I reckon pp is spot on, take anyone from before the 24 hour weigh in and they could remove 10% and compete a couple.of divisions below.
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:37 PM   #32
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Lewis's right hand smashes open Rocky's skin and stops him on cuts in the mid rounds.
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Lewis would be too big, too strong and ultimately too skillful for Marciano.
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No that's not how you cut water weight, you have water intake of 10litres of water per day for a few days, then 48 hours before you completely remove carbohydrates, then 36-24 hours you limit any water consumption to next to nothing, go into a steam room to sweat off weight and take diuretics.

That's good for at least 10% water weight cutting, so 182 - 18 = 164lbs, so yes Marciano could make 168 and maybe even 160.
Powerpuncher is right just because Rocky trained his ass off and weighed 185lbs doesn't mean he can't cut 15lbs especially if the weigh in is a day before the fight.

Anyway Lennox is too big and powerful this would look like a heavyweight Hearns v Duran.
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That's good for at least 10% water weight cutting, so 182 - 18 = 164lbs, so yes Marciano could make 168 and maybe even 160.


Marciano was a heavy-boned guy. Perhaps he could cut to 175, but with his monk like dedication it may take something out of him. Sick and with the flu Marciano was like 181 against Salvold.

A lot of fighters these days are harming themselves draining so much. So yes, you can do it but but how much would it ultimately effect him. If Marciano had a better nutrition/diet which allowed for him to eat more be much better served at CW, maybe even a small HW than MW or SMW. If that were even possible.
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Old 04-01-2013, 03:53 PM   #36
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Also I like how so many are saying 2-3 rounds tops, when Tommy Morrison who majority on here will say was rubbish, glass chin, nothing more than a left hook lasted for 6 rounds. Good stuff.
This.

Morrison had some decent head/upperbody movement. So does Marciano.
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Lewis pretty easily



You don't know anything about weight making, the body is mainly water so by cutting water weight you can go well below your fighting weight for a weigh in, then you put the water back on. Marciano could easily make 175 and maybe 168.
No PP, he couldn't.

He had already dropped as far as he could go. He always came in as light as possible, and well under his walk around weight. If he hadn't been so religious about keeping his weight to a minimum, he would have come in around 210.
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Old 04-01-2013, 07:50 PM   #38
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Lightheavyweights these days come in the ring around 185 lbs.

Considering Marciano also eat a lot before weigh ins he could easily make the lhw limit with some sweating.

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Chavez Jr also is around 185lbs inside the ring but he's using diuretics... (Chavez at fight night is heavier than Froch at fight night)

Chavez gets weighed the day before the fight. In Rocky's day, he would have fought at LHW.
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I saw the Tua fight and most of Lewis other fights. I rate his chin as decent, and I rate Wlad's as decent too. Wlad was never KO'd by a single punch for the 10 count, even after several flush shots from Sanders. Rahman put Lennox right out.

As I said, I rate both chins as decent. They both take more 'glass flak' than is warranted.
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Marciano was a heavy-boned guy. Perhaps he could cut to 175, but with his monk like dedication it may take something out of him. Sick and with the flu Marciano was like 181 against Salvold.

A lot of fighters these days are harming themselves draining so much. So yes, you can do it but but how much would it ultimately effect him. If Marciano had a better nutrition/diet which allowed for him to eat more be much better served at CW, maybe even a small HW than MW or SMW. If that were even possible.
Read again thoroughly, the human body is around 50% water, you can cut around 10%-15% bodyweight by water cutting

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No PP, he couldn't.

He had already dropped as far as he could go. He always came in as light as possible, and well under his walk around weight. If he hadn't been so religious about keeping his weight to a minimum, he would have come in around 210.
See my earlier post

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No that's not how you cut water weight, you have water intake of 10litres of water per day for a few days, then 48 hours before you completely remove carbohydrates, then 36-24 hours you limit any water consumption to next to nothing, go into a steam room to sweat off weight and take diuretics.

That's good for at least 10% water weight cutting, so 182 - 18 = 164lbs, so yes Marciano could make 168 and maybe even 160.

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it's no great surprise I mean Chavez fights at about the same weight as rocky.

I wonder how they compare height and reach wise actually?

I think draining down can limit a fighter if it isn't done correctly but I reckon pp is spot on, take anyone from before the 24 hour weigh in and they could remove 10% and compete a couple.of divisions below.
Just look at McClellan and Eubank 180lb+ guys in the ring, Eubank cut out of rock and similar dimensions to Rocky

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Old 04-02-2013, 03:33 AM   #41
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I'm not going to argue with LHW. SMW and MW would've been a serious hindrance. Marciano is much more big-boned than Eubanks. Agree to disagree.
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Old 04-02-2013, 11:24 AM   #42
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What the f? We are still making these bull crap Marciano threads? Why doesn' the moderator just ban anybody from making threads with Marciano vs any real heavyweight?
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Old 04-02-2013, 11:27 AM   #43
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What the f? We are still making these bull crap Marciano threads? Why doesn' the moderator just ban anybody from making threads with Marciano vs any real heavyweight?
People don't want to realize weight does matter until their favourite hw loses to a bigger one.
(Not trying to discredit Haye, he's very good but..)
Before the Wlad fight:Size doesn't matter, Haye's gonna KO the bum
After the Wlad fight:Haye is just a cruiser, Wlad couldn't even KO a cruiser.


Weight isn't the only thing, but when 2 equally skilled men fight you should bet on the bigger man.
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Old 04-02-2013, 11:51 AM   #44
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Marciano could make light-welterweight if he really tried.
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Old 04-02-2013, 11:52 AM   #45
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