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Old 03-31-2013, 05:01 PM   #1
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Default What true big punchers did Frazier beat??

Mando Ramos & Bonevana gave him trouble, and Quarry was a boxer / puncher as well as Jimmy Ellis. Bob Foster was a powerful LtHvy.

Ali's right hand might have been the hardest punch he defeated.

Did Frazier happen to come along at just the right time??
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Old 03-31-2013, 05:43 PM   #2
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Old 03-31-2013, 07:15 PM   #3
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Joe Frazier never defeated any of the big punchers of the era..George Foreman, Sonny Liston, Earnie Shavers, Ron Lyle....You have a point.
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Old 03-31-2013, 07:45 PM   #4
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Mando Ramos & Bonevana gave him trouble, and Quarry was a boxer / puncher as well as Jimmy Ellis. Bob Foster was a powerful LtHvy.

Ali's right hand might have been the hardest punch he defeated.

Did Frazier happen to come along at just the right time??
What about Doug Jones and Buster Mathis? They were both big punchers but their boxing skill overshadowed this.
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Old 03-31-2013, 08:49 PM   #5
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Old 03-31-2013, 09:32 PM   #6
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What about Doug Jones and Buster Mathis? They were both big punchers but their boxing skill overshadowed this.
Mathis wasn't known for being a puncher
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Old 03-31-2013, 09:49 PM   #7
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Joe Frazier never defeated any of the big punchers of the era..George Foreman, Sonny Liston, Earnie Shavers, Ron Lyle....You have a point.
Jones and Quarry both probably hit about as hard as Lyle - why would you acknowledge Lyle as being among "the big punchers of the era" but not those two?
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Old 04-01-2013, 12:19 AM   #8
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Jerry Quarry looked like a pretty big puncher when he blasted out Ernie Shavers, Thad Spencer and Mac Foster. He just couldn't hurt Joe Frazier.
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Old 04-01-2013, 02:36 AM   #9
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0 big punchers on n all times / historical scale .

some1 had 2 give a serious and correct answer
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Old 04-01-2013, 03:02 AM   #10
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Mando Ramos & Bonevana gave him trouble, and Quarry was a boxer / puncher as well as Jimmy Ellis. Bob Foster was a powerful LtHvy.

Ali's right hand might have been the hardest punch he defeated.

Did Frazier happen to come along at just the right time??
Uh-oh...
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Old 04-01-2013, 03:10 AM   #11
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Jones and Quarry both probably hit about as hard as Lyle - why would you acknowledge Lyle as being among "the big punchers of the era" but not those two?
Jones was a light heavyweight. No way he hit as hard as Lyle, who was a real heavy by modern standards.
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Old 04-01-2013, 03:17 AM   #12
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Oscar Bonavena was a big puncher. Not a great finisher once he hit the elite level heavyweights. But a powerful banger who hit just as hard (perhaps even harder) than Ron Lyle, imho.
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Old 04-01-2013, 03:36 AM   #13
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Joe Frazier was stopped by only two men, Ali and Foreman. Foreman stopped a long list of opponents. So too did Ali. Not sure why anyone would want to try and detract from Frazier's accomplishments?
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Old 04-01-2013, 06:04 AM   #14
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Ellis had a better right hand than jimmy young and Ali and both put Foreman down.
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Old 04-01-2013, 09:40 AM   #15
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Doug Jones, Jerry Quarry, Jimmy Ellis, Oscar Bonavena, Joe Bugner, and George Chuvalo could all punch hard. Hell, Jones and Bonavena rocked Ali at one point, and especially Bonavena, who actually staggered him. Quarry starched a lot of guys. Chuvalo was very strong and never took a backwards step. How many guys stopped Chuvalo? Only Foreman and Frazier. And Chuvalo had 64 KOs in 73 wins. Bugner wasn't exactly a little guy either. So yes, Frazier could beat a puncher. He just couldn't beat one of the most tremendous punchers of all time.
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