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View Poll Results: Which win is better on paper?
Guerrero's win over Aydin 9 37.50%
Bradley's win over Provodnikov 15 62.50%
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Old 03-28-2013, 02:02 AM   #1
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Default Better victory? Guerrero/Aydin or Bradley/Provodnikov

Which of these two wins was the better victory in terms of resume and legacy? Not popularity or entertainment, but which win means more?

Guerrero UD12 Aydin

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Bradley UD12 Provodnikov
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Old 03-28-2013, 02:06 AM   #2
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Default Re: Better victory? Guerrero/Aydin or Bradley/Provodnikov

Ghost moved up 2 weight classes to beat an undefeated champion. Ghost was also the underdog in the fight.

Bradley fought someone moving up in weight who had already lost and was an enormous underdog going into the fight.

Just because Bradley struggled mightily doesn't mean his win was superior. I think it's more telling of Bradley's deficiencies/weaknesses than anything.

Bradley/Provo was more entertaining, but Ghost's win was more impressive.
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Old 03-28-2013, 04:40 AM   #3
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Default Re: Better victory? Guerrero/Aydin or Bradley/Provodnikov

I think it's clearly Guerrero over Aydin but would like to hear an argument to the contrary...
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Old 03-28-2013, 08:08 AM   #4
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Default Re: Better victory? Guerrero/Aydin or Bradley/Provodnikov

Bradleys win was barely a win, the fight should have been scored a draw.
Had he decisively beat him and outhustled him it would have been a good win over a dangerous opponent.
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Default Re: Better victory? Guerrero/Aydin or Bradley/Provodnikov

The winner is BRADLEY, because he fought Provodnikov's fight, he fought a fight that plays towards Provodnikov's strengths that got him to the level where he's at today.
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Old 03-28-2013, 08:56 AM   #6
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Default Re: Better victory? Guerrero/Aydin or Bradley/Provodnikov

Guerrero vs Aydin as Aydin was a highly ranked welter

Provo was moving up and hadnt beaten and opponent on the level of what Aydin had beaten

Bradley did look great rounds 3-11 minus the 6th, he completely out boxed Provo and didnt take much punishment in those rounds
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:06 AM   #7
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Default Re: Better victory? Guerrero/Aydin or Bradley/Provodnikov

Aydin was a nobody and had beaten nobody...He got outboxed by Soto-Karass ffs
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:13 AM   #8
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Default Re: Better victory? Guerrero/Aydin or Bradley/Provodnikov

Aydin is finished, he himself even thinks so. It looked a decent win at the time for the ghost but after Soto beat him much easier its not looking so good now.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:48 AM   #9
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Default Re: Better victory? Guerrero/Aydin or Bradley/Provodnikov

Whilst Guerrero beat Aydin convincingly, Aydin is a weaker opponent than Provodnikov.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:56 AM   #10
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Default Re: Better victory? Guerrero/Aydin or Bradley/Provodnikov

Without using hindsight... Guererro's win over Aydin.
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Old 04-01-2013, 04:02 AM   #11
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Default Re: Better victory? Guerrero/Aydin or Bradley/Provodnikov

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Whilst Guerrero beat Aydin convincingly, Aydin is a weaker opponent than Provodnikov.
I might agree with you in a H2H sense.

But that is irrelevant to me when one guy has a far superior resume for his career and was a lifetime welterweight while the other guy with the decisively inferior resume has never fought anybody relevant at welter, and is a junior welterweight.

Plus, Bradley was stunned a good 5+ times and dropped once (should have been twice). A good percentage of people scored the fight a draw or even for Provodnikov.

Guerrero got buzzed a few times by Aydin, never hurt to the degree Bradley was multiple times, and decisively won the fight. It was a good 115-113, but I haven't heard anyone claim Aydin won or deserved a draw.

I look whoever posted about "Bradley fought Provodnikov's fight." Honestly, that doesn't change the value of the win. Otherwise, Alvarado deserves less credit for moving too much against Rios in the re-match than he did in the first or he would deserve if he had planted his feet???? It's true what you say about Bradley fighting Prov's fight, but I just don't buy it at all.
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