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Old 04-01-2013, 04:59 PM   #16
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Mines are.

Spinks
Holmes
Leonard
De La Hoya

I thought Spinks clearly won the first fight, and I thought Holmes won the rematch by about the same margin.

Leonard and De La Hoya won by 7 rounds to 5. Close but clear.
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Old 04-01-2013, 05:10 PM   #17
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SS, do you have your scorecard for the Griffith losses, I'm sure I remember seeing them somewhere but can't find them.
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Old 04-01-2013, 05:39 PM   #18
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Just noticed my scorecard for Spinks-Holmes I doesn't make sense. Would have to review to sort it out, but I definitely had Spinks winning it.
I think your addition is off by a point. It should be 144-141.
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Old 04-01-2013, 06:22 PM   #19
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Harold Lederman was a judge for the 1st Holmes-Spinks fight. He scored it 143-142 (8-7) for Spinks.

At the end of the 14th, two of the judges, Dave Moretti and Harold Lederman, had the fight even. The third judge, Larry Wallace, had Spinks ahead by two points.

Lerderman was an unofficial judge for HBO for the 2nd fight. He scored it 144-141 (9-6) for Holmes.

Holmes: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, 12, 14.

Spinks: 6, 8, 10, 11, 13, 15.
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:14 AM   #20
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SS, do you have your scorecard for the Griffith losses, I'm sure I remember seeing them somewhere but can't find them.
You can get a taste of my agenda-driven take on Emile's fights here:

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I think your addition is off by a point. It should be 144-141.
Yeah that's most likely all there is to it. Cheers
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Old 04-02-2013, 06:17 AM   #22
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Yeah that's most likely all there is to it. Cheers
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Holmes-Spinks I
I can't find my card. I know I've scored it at least once.

Holmes-Spinks II 140-145
Holmes: 1,2,3,4,7
Spinks: 5,6,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15

Hagler-Leonard
I'm not comfortable making a determination either way as I've scored it at least three times for Leonard- once very, very wide- but now I have it just as wide for Marvin. I like them both equally, and I'm reminded of what Richard Steele said on this very fight; that's exactly what happened to me too.

Whitaker-De La Hoya 114-113
Whitaker: 1,5,7,9*,10,11
De La Hoya: 2,3*,4,8,12
Draw: 6
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SS do you have a link to ya Gavilan scores as well?
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You can find most of my scorecards around those parts
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Holmes-Spinks II 140-145
Holmes: 1,2,3,4,7
Spinks: 5,6,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15
April Fools, surely.
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April Fools, surely.
Would I be off-base in thinking Spinks clearly outworked him?

The old guy wasn't putting up much of a pace, so I awarded the fitter, busier bloke throwing punches. I thought Spinks was the better man.
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Would I be off-base in thinking Spinks clearly outworked him?

The old guy wasn't putting up much of a pace, so I awarded the fitter, busier bloke throwing punches. I thought Spinks was the better man.

Holmes, only one round after the 4th. Astonishing scoring.
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Holmes, only one round after the 4th. Astonishing scoring.
I can see the case for "hurting the opponent", but that's not the criterion I use. If you're hurting your man, I want to see it deter him. I'm not prepared to reward any fighter additional points for something unquantifiable; that seems completely redundant.

The brunt of it for me lies in Holmes' inability to carry a sustained offense after the seventh round. He gassed, and I saw Spinks take over.
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