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Old 04-04-2013, 02:28 PM   #61
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Sven if no one else does I remember exactly what the cobra looks like. Exactly...
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Old 04-04-2013, 02:39 PM   #62
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You look like a cool dude, Bog.

Bit let down about the Lora/Cochran hybrid-abomination thing though...




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Old 04-04-2013, 03:17 PM   #63
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I think Floyd's comfortable wherever the fight goes, and his inside game has really come to the forefront in recent years, so getting pushed up against the ropes isn't really going to get to him much. Still, as we saw against Castillo and Cotto - probably the two best pure pressure fighters he's faced - he can be forced there when it suits him more to keep things in the middle of the ring. He doesn't have complete, total control of space against high level guys (or borderline high level, in Floyd's case) quite like Whitaker or several others. I really rate Mayweather as a ring general, but I don't think he's in the running for very best ever.
I agree with this guy...
I do rate Mayweather as an excellent ring general, because his defense is just that great...Mayweather has been on top for quite awhile now and while some might chide him on competition...he is standing the test of time, and in the process demonstrating what the greats have...and that is consistancy.
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Who the **** is Sven?
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Old 04-04-2013, 05:49 PM   #65
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Old 04-04-2013, 05:58 PM   #66
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Old 04-04-2013, 06:25 PM   #67
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Who the **** is Sven?
I thought it was just the Scandanavian version of '****?'

You know, like: "Sven if no one else does, I remember," or, "I'm gonna svenning Sven you so svenning hard you svenning hot meter maid."

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Old 04-04-2013, 06:27 PM   #68
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It actually means young man, so I guess it kinda makes sense.
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Old 04-04-2013, 06:36 PM   #69
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He was great for sure. Greatest? No
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Old 04-04-2013, 11:08 PM   #70
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Because he usually dominates regardless. Floyd getting cornered/up against the ropes are often some of the most interesting moments of his fights.
I'm inclined to think that often he's not getting cornered at all, but setting a trap.
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Old 04-04-2013, 11:11 PM   #71
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His guard is simply amazing. By itself his guard is one of the best ever. He does great work against the ropes, but on the outside chance he drops a round, it's also often backing up against the ropes. So on ring generalship alone, Floyd is far above most fighters, but among the very best is a stretch IMO.
The man in your avatar is also exlent against the ropes. Both Mayweather and Hopkins are always standing right up not bending over. Able to see everything coming at them, and able to respond.
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Old 04-05-2013, 12:02 PM   #72
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I'm inclined to think that often he's not getting cornered at all, but setting a trap.
You mean he's wanting to take body shots and hits to set a trap? Nah, I don't buy it.. He just doesn't have the legs he used to have and isn't as good as Whitaker imo
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