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Old 04-02-2013, 01:06 PM   #1
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Default Boxing styles in vogue during different decades?

Have styles in boxing been in vogue during different periods of time? Was there a specific style that was in fashion during the 1920's, 1930's, 1940's, 1950's, 1960's, 1970's, 1980's, 1990's, 2000's? Does boxing go through shifts in styles that are in fashion at that moment time (probably due to the style of the most famous boxer of the previous era)?
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:34 PM   #2
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This is a good thread and something I've wondered before.

Now, it's obviously Floyd. Ali was massively inspiring to late 70s/80s Thai's and other notable American fighters.

I wanna' say Tunney had a big influence but I don't really have any specific examples.
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Old 04-02-2013, 02:18 PM   #3
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I think the late nineties and the early 2000s was the era of the hands down, unorthodox style - the Sweet Pea, Roy Jones, Naseem Hamed type fighter. It's still out there but doesn't seem to be as fashionable today. The clear example today is obviously Mayweather.
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Old 04-02-2013, 02:59 PM   #4
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Yes, hands down 'I'm not as athletic as I think I am' was, and still to an extent today (Froch, Sergio, Darchinyan) but I think some of that might be Ali's influence on the Pea/Jones era. I doubt they were watching Samart Payakaroon
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Yes, hands down 'I'm not as athletic as I think I am' was, and still to an extent today (Froch, Sergio, Darchinyan) but I think some of that might be Ali's influence on the Pea/Jones era. I doubt they were watching Samart Payakaroon
Martinez and Froch have both said that they admire Roy
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Old 04-02-2013, 04:33 PM   #6
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Right. From what I've read about Benny Leonard and Stillman's gym in the 20's/30's, he was much admired and taught many boxers skills. However, did up-and-coming boxers of that era attempt to mimic Leonard's style (or parts of it)? Same with Sugar Ray?
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:05 PM   #7
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Martinez and Froch have both said that they admire Roy
Dirrell and Pascal too
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:15 PM   #8
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Donaire as well. Who didn't enjoy Roy.
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Old 04-03-2013, 12:02 AM   #9
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Excellent thread. This typically happens in a more pronounced way when fighters come out of the same gym or similar trainers and separated by about less than 1 full era. Fighters definitely try to take on great characteristics from fighters that they look up to. But each fighter lays their own fingerprint on the style and no two styles are ever exactly the same due to their own distinct body anatomy etc (which is what I love studying in boxing). Think Finito Lopez, Juan Manuel Marquez (and his lil bro Rafael Marquez) for example. Styles are definitely shared and passed on, its up to fighters to be wise enough to perfect it. When you got guys like Beristein and Cus dmato putting a particular style on their stable of fighters, you can see how fast fighters pick things up. A lot of Cubans in todays game have a very very similar rhythm of swaying side to side while pawing/reaching with 1 arm to help measure distance and time their attack. Guillermo Rigo does this quite a bit, and Gamboa does similarly out of the orthodox style. Other lesser Cubans attempt this similar thing rhythm.
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Martinez and Froch have both said that they admire Roy
Which backs up my point. Unfortunately their reflexes aren't up to scratch.
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I think in the future there will be more styles on the go because there is so much more ways available to study individual moves. Either that or it could all simplify itself into a point scorring sport like fencing.

There will always be box punchers, counter punchers, presure fighters but how they hold themselves with stance, footing, being more square or side on will depend on the curent trend as well as the number of punches they use in a combination.

It fascinates me that nothing is entirely new. You will always find more exaggerated impressions or A different take on what has been used before but a lot has to do with what pace will allow. Pace more than style will dictate more to the evelution of boxing.

Also how fights are scored in the amateurs effects how fighters develop.
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I think in the future there will be more styles on the go because there is so much more ways available to study individual moves. Either that or it could all simplify itself into a point scorring sport like fencing.

There will always be box punchers, counter punchers, presure fighters but how they hold themselves with stance, footing, being more square or side on will depend on the curent trend as well as the number of punches they use in a combination.

It fascinates me that nothing is entirely new. You will always find more exaggerated impressions or A different take on what has been used before but a lot has to do with what pace will allow. Pace more than style will dictate more to the evelution of boxing.

Also how fights are scored in the amateurs effects how fighters develop.
Good points. Your point about the widespread availability of video on fighters of yesteryear and current fighters influencing styles might mean that up-and-coming boxers will find aspiration in less popular styles that can be found by digging up old video on the internet.
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Old 04-03-2013, 03:31 PM   #13
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Also how fights are scored in the amateurs effects how fighters develop.
This too. Many amateurs fight with their hands stuck to their faces and opt to shell up like Winky rather than parry, slip or roll with punches due to the current scoring system. Although the scoring is due to change over the next couple of years I believe, with headgear also being removed.
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Old 04-03-2013, 04:33 PM   #14
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Francois Botha cast an immense shadow over the sport. His impact has yet to be fully appreciated.
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Please, no more John Ruiz and Wladimir Klitschko.
I think Wlad is a very good boxer but if he spawns a generation of Wlad like boxers I'm going to ****ing kill him.
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