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View Poll Results: Does Ali/Ali's corners blatant use of banned substances to recover damage his legacy?
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:45 AM   #76
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Doubt it.
Look at the way they hyped Mitchell as if he was going to be the next Heavyweight Champion, he got exposed by Banks. It's a sad era for American Heavyweights with such an illustrious history.
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:48 AM   #77
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Look at the way they hyped Mitchell as if he was going to be the next Heavyweight Champion, he got exposed by Banks. It's a sad era for American Heavyweights with such an illustrious history.
It's all round shit, the saddest excuse I've seen for a shit fight was the pinky toe excuse which he also showed no proof.

Fk even Tony Tucker threw punches with his broken hand at Tyson.

BTW Ali would rather die then lose not run like a coward
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Old 04-06-2013, 10:06 AM   #78
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That's just wounded pride & bravado talking mate.

Yeah he deserves what he got for the Toe excuse. If you understood their specific styles then you would realize that it would not be the barn burner that it was predicted to be. Even Emmanuel Steward noted this.

Ibragimov-Klitschko takes the cake for the worst Heavyweight Title fight though.
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Old 04-06-2013, 10:15 AM   #79
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Not only realised it wouldn't be a barn burner but that Haye had absolutely no chance of winning.

I used to think differently but after his first few fights at heavy it was clear that even without the weight cut he want going to be much better at the highest weight.
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Old 04-06-2013, 10:45 AM   #80
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Not only realised it wouldn't be a barn burner but that Haye had absolutely no chance of winning.

I used to think differently but after his first few fights at heavy it was clear that even without the weight cut he want going to be much better at the highest weight.
Maybe he'll fight Pulev in june and hopefully the Bulgarian will get his mandatory spot after that.
Would be nice for hw boxing I think.
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Old 04-06-2013, 03:38 PM   #81
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This thread isn't haye but about Ali's blatant use of banned substances and cheating his way to victory.
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Old 04-06-2013, 03:40 PM   #82
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This thread isn't haye but about Dundee's blatant use of banned substances and cheating his way to victory.
It was Dundee shoving it under his nose, Ali never asked.

Doesn't make it better, but Ali doesn't deserve hate for it.
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Old 04-06-2013, 03:49 PM   #83
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This thread isn't haye but about Ali's blatant use of banned substances and cheating his way to victory.
Like I said Foreman is a cheat too, agree?
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Old 04-06-2013, 05:03 PM   #84
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Like I said Foreman is a cheat too, agree?
Right now, this thread is about Ali's use of banned substances to win a fight he was about to lose. If you want to talk about Foreman or someone else's accidental headbutt or low blow etc start another thread.
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Old 04-06-2013, 07:00 PM   #85
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So I've read every post of this thread and I'm still not sure if we should ban boxers for drinkining coffee, thoughts? And let's say it's coffee without milk/cream but with sugar, thoughts? Should there be retrospective investigations on such substance abuse?
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Old 04-06-2013, 07:12 PM   #86
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So I've read every post of this thread and I'm still not sure if we should ban boxers for drinkining coffee, thoughts? And let's say it's coffee without milk/cream but with sugar, thoughts? Should there be retrospective investigations on such substance abuse?
Funny how your equating coffee with something like smelling salts which brings someone back from the brink of unconsciousness instantly. Smelling salts was a banned substance in the cooper-ali fight and ali's corner cheated and he should have lost that fight with a DQ.
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Old 04-06-2013, 10:41 PM   #87
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Right now, this thread is about Ali's use of banned substances to win a fight he was about to lose. If you want to talk about Foreman or someone else's accidental headbutt or low blow etc start another thread.
You can clearly see Gil Clancy give Foreman smelling salts after the 4th round in the Lyle fight, wonder why it wasnt such a big deal in that bout???
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Old 04-06-2013, 10:51 PM   #88
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Give me examples, theres a difference between not even knowing where you are/your perception of time being messed up (in the case of Ali) and being a little hazy in your mind.

Mills-Lesnivich?
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Old 04-06-2013, 10:55 PM   #89
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Brian London contended for a world title. Brian London.

Henry Cooper was a top 10 heavyweight on the planet. He was beyond the gatekeeper status, in my opinion. Not to many journeyman boxers that I know contend for world titles, or even beat men who contended.


Not to many journeyman boxers that I know contend for world titles, or even beat men who contended.[/quote]

Apart from London........twice
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Old 04-06-2013, 11:11 PM   #90
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Yes, but they were illegal in British boxing when the match took place.
Not true they have never been illegal
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