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Old 04-17-2013, 11:15 PM   #91
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Geale beats:

-Sylvester (reining world champ)
-Sturm (reigning world champ)
-Tassie defence
-mr 3 time world champ and avenges his only loss.

-GGG (great young talent) inherits belt and fights Ishida.

-Mundine wants Mayweather.

Geale has tangible results and that is a fact. The rest of the middleweight division is nothing more than speculation until they start fighting and I will clarify that.

-Martinez age makes him LESS of a known quantity with each fight.
-JCC maybe has better longevity at SMW or playstation on the choof.
-GGG is keen to fight anyone but it quite simply has not happened yet.
-the poms seem to be having a dig and actually landing these fights.

If Ward can get stripped then it does not diminish his achievements, England can win a Rugby World Cup Final without scoring a try, but Geale can't be a Unified world champ because he:

A. Not black enough.
B. Tasmainian.
C. Doesn't knock people out.

I smell bull****.
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Old 04-17-2013, 11:27 PM   #92
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Geale beats:

-Sylvester (reining world champ)
-Sturm (reigning world champ)
-Tassie defence
-mr 3 time world champ and avenges his only loss.

-GGG (great young talent) inherits belt and fights Ishida.

-Mundine wants Mayweather.

Geale has tangible results and that is a fact. The rest of the middleweight division is nothing more than speculation until they start fighting and I will clarify that.

-Martinez age makes him LESS of a known quantity with each fight.
-JCC maybe has better longevity at SMW or playstation on the choof.
-GGG is keen to fight anyone but it quite simply has not happened yet.
-the poms seem to be having a dig and actually landing these fights.

If Ward can get stripped then it does not diminish his achievements, England can win a Rugby World Cup Final without scoring a try, but Geale can't be a Unified world champ because he:

A. Not black enough.
B. Tasmainian.
C. Doesn't knock people out.

I smell bull****.
**** off with these sensible posts would ya.
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Old 04-18-2013, 12:53 AM   #93
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-Martinez age makes him LESS of a known quantity with each fight.


I smell bull****.
Cough Hopkins
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Old 04-18-2013, 01:42 AM   #94
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Cough Hopkins
Hopkins is an enigma and the exception not the rule cough troll
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Old 04-18-2013, 01:42 AM   #95
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Hopkins fair enough but there is no benefit for Geale in that fight on this forum. Karmazin, sylvester and Sturm were all past prime and Mundine was shot according to most. If he goes upwards 15 years everyone on here will call him Daniel De Dominator.
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Old 04-18-2013, 01:51 AM   #96
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He is the ring champion mate. #1 ranked is then Geale. To become the best you have to fight the best and atm Martinez is the best middleweight out there.
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Old 04-18-2013, 02:05 AM   #97
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I agree with Martinez I think that should be Geales number one target. I missed the bit in my last post where I was going to say that Martinez will retire before Hopkins. Bhop wants to fight until 50, Martinez won't fight long after his next loss.

That was what I was saying about Martinez being an unknown quantity due to his age, I think Geale has to fight him before he suffers a loss. Lets say Murray causes an upset, a lot of people will miss out on their chance with sergio because he might pack it in.

If that happens the GGG should be the focus, not a fallen champ. I might have contradicted myself somewhere but I definitely think Geale should go for #1 before Golovkin.
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Old 04-18-2013, 02:15 AM   #98
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I'll add to that, that donaire was 2012 fighter of the year (top 10 p4p) and got beat by a guy that many considered an amatuer. He has youth on his side and can rebuild. If/when Sergio suffers the same fate he will be pigeonholed to his South American ppvs. No disrespect to him it's just how the money works at 40 years of age.
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Old 04-18-2013, 02:29 AM   #99
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He is the ring champion mate. #1 ranked is then Geale. To become the best you have to fight the best and atm Martinez is the best middleweight out there.
A true quote that is,and i reckon geale will out speed out fitness out run Sergio to become the new ring champ.
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Old 04-18-2013, 02:55 AM   #100
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Its good to be Optimistic however if you watch Martinez fights then watch Geales there is a vast diffrence in their skills with Martinez the far better boxer of the two. Work Rate alone doesnt make you a good boxer, you need speed and power. Martinez may not have the work rate of Geale but he is alot faster and has alot more power than Geale, Geale only knows one style of fighting, Martinez is a smart boxer and very slick. Geale will look very amateurish in there with Martinez imo.
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I agree with Martinez I think that should be Geales number one target. I missed the bit in my last post where I was going to say that Martinez will retire before Hopkins. Bhop wants to fight until 50, Martinez won't fight long after his next loss.

That was what I was saying about Martinez being an unknown quantity due to his age, I think Geale has to fight him before he suffers a loss. Lets say Murray causes an upset, a lot of people will miss out on their chance with sergio because he might pack it in.

If that happens the GGG should be the focus, not a fallen champ. I might have contradicted myself somewhere but I definitely think Geale should go for #1 before Golovkin.
Good post, spot on.
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A true quote that is,and i reckon geale will out speed out fitness out run Sergio to become the new ring champ.
I think he can just do this too, but geez I'll be on the edge of my seat when the fight happens.
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Old 04-18-2013, 03:04 AM   #102
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A sensible post from you for a change...
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Its good to be Optimistic however if you watch Martinez fights then watch Geales there is a vast diffrence in their skills with Martinez the far better boxer of the two.
Not IMO. They have different styles, Martinez has more experience, but is not better IMO.
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Work Rate alone doesnt make you a good boxer, you need speed and power. Martinez may not have the work rate of Geale but he is alot faster and has alot more power than Geale,
Speed is much the same IMO, but yes, Martinez has more power.
Geale makes up for that power with the exceptional workrate.
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Geale only knows one style of fighting, Martinez is a smart boxer and very slick.
Disagree, Geale is a very smart fighter.
Paces himself well, is always in control and composed.
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Geale will look very amateurish in there with Martinez imo.
I don't think so.
Geale has very impressive angles and body movement, I believe you underrated him significantly.

This will be a very competitive and close fight. 50/50 IMO.

Now play nice for a change, **** head.
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Old 04-18-2013, 03:09 AM   #103
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A sensible post from you for a change...

Not IMO. They have different styles, Martinez has more experience, but is not better IMO.
Speed is much the same IMO, but yes, Martinez has more power.
Geale makes up for that power with the exceptional workrate.
Disagree, Geale is a very smart fighter.
Paces himself well, is always in control and composed.
I don't think so.
Geale has very impressive angles and body movement, I believe you underrated him significantly.

This will be a very competitive and close fight. 50/50 IMO.

Now play nice for a change, **** head.
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lol @ **** head
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Old 04-18-2013, 07:48 AM   #105
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What makes me optimistic about Geale v Martinez is that it won't be immediate as they have other commitments, if it happens at all. It would most likely be 2014 and Martinez will have had the Murray fight at least, perhaps more. He will only get riper.
Getting a beat down in late rounds by JCC will have a cumulative effect if it happens again, and again, and someone will catch him. He has got to this age due to a late start and good skills but if a guy at 40 or even Hopkins got pacquio'd then they would immediately retire.
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