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Old 04-23-2013, 02:46 AM   #1
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Fighters who can exploit this; Povetkin, Pulev, Haye, Klitschko etc. All who are respectful punchers.

How does he deal with? He not quite as athletic as Wlad is on his feet so moving back laterally is not his cup of tea. High Guard? Thoughts?
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Old 04-23-2013, 02:55 AM   #2
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Fighters who can exploit this; Povetkin, Pulev, Haye, Klitschko etc. All who are respectful punchers.

How does he deal with? He not quite as athletic as Wlad is on his feet so moving back laterally is not his cup of tea. High Guard? Thoughts?
Didn't he specifically fight Rogan in the southpaw stance in order to deal with this problem? Anyway I'll think he'll be fine as long as he sticks to a game plan like he did in the Kingpin fight. I don't think to much can be drawn on the Cunnigham fight where Tyson decided to fight in full retard mode and was probably on the drink again prior to the fight, his weight and belly seems to give that impression. Over there experiencing the bright lights of New York without Peter must have seen Fury's discipline crack again.
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Old 04-23-2013, 03:03 AM   #3
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Been saying this since the Pajkic fight especially in regards to a Haye fight. It's Haye's best shot, Fury has been dropped heavily twice by similar sized and less powerful fighters. Haye would spark him with this shot within six if they fought next.

He finds himself square on when in the pocket both times and that's why he went down in similar ways i.e. flat on his back. This 'squaring up', which is probably down to him getting too excited and losing concentration AND his low left hand are bad, bad news for a potential Haye fight.
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Old 04-23-2013, 03:04 AM   #4
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All of the fighters mentioned above KO Tyson inside 6. I like Tyson and enjoy watching him fight, and he has shown in the past that he can box well behind the jab with a solid defence but only against fighters that allow him to do so for example counter punchers like Johnson. As soon you put Tyson under pressure the red mist descends and he mentally falls to pieces and goes rushing in looking to brawl. Your Haye's and Klitschko's would just pick him off and eventually knock him out.

Tyson has the skills and the heart his problem is psychological rather than technical IMO
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Old 04-23-2013, 03:07 AM   #5
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True, I did see him change to southpaw against Cunningham but he was still getting tagged a bit. It probably is a more a discipline problem more than anything, but a good fighter will try to pressure him, and force him to bring his guard down. He was getting tagged by it in rounds 3 & 4 before enforcing his size on Cunningham.

Kinda of an ugly ass fight.
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Old 04-23-2013, 03:43 AM   #6
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He needs to keep his left hand up and judge distance better, these midgets shouldn't even be in range to land it
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Similar problem to Amir Khan, too eager to brawl and please the crowd.
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Old 04-23-2013, 04:18 AM   #8
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He hangs his jab, basic technical flaw that should have been ironed out years ago. By not snapping the jab back opponents are able to get inside the reach and because he is a bit ploddy his head is always there, you could almost shut your eyes and gamble. Haye would.
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Both times he was knocked down he was completely squared up and had nowhere to go but the canvas. He wasn't that hurt, but sometimes the whiplash of the canvas can do more damage than the actual punch, especially when you're as large as Tyson.

My own two cents are that he needs to pick his shots better, fight behind his jab, not get complacent of his opponent's power, not recklessly wade in with his chin exposed and his feet in concrete. Basically do what he did so well in the Kingpin fight. Any tall fighter is vulnerable to the overhand right, but the Klitschkos never expose themselves to the sort of dangers that Tyson does. Tyson can't learn too much from Wlad, who also uses superior reflexes and athleticism to avoid shots, but he certainly can from the slower Vitali.

Keeping his opponents tentative with the threat of a strong jab (which Fury possesses) coupled with respectfulness of his opponent's offence at all times and a lean back defensive style would minimise his chances of getting caught again.
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Old 04-23-2013, 04:50 AM   #10
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He hangs his jab, basic technical flaw that should have been ironed out years ago. By not snapping the jab back opponents are able to get inside the reach and because he is a bit ploddy his head is always there, you could almost shut your eyes and gamble. Haye would.
I just love Mick's reaction
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I just love Mick's reaction
Superb isn't it? I love the way his hand goes over his mouth.
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Old 04-23-2013, 06:57 AM   #12
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Both times he was knocked down he was completely squared up and had nowhere to go but the canvas. He wasn't that hurt, but sometimes the whiplash of the canvas can do more damage than the actual punch, especially when you're as large as Tyson.

My own two cents are that he needs to pick his shots better, fight behind his jab, not get complacent of his opponent's power, not recklessly wade in with his chin exposed and his feet in concrete. Basically do what he did so well in the Kingpin fight. Any tall fighter is vulnerable to the overhand right, but the Klitschkos never expose themselves to the sort of dangers that Tyson does. Tyson can't learn too much from Wlad, who also uses superior reflexes and athleticism to avoid shots, but he certainly can from the slower Vitali.

Keeping his opponents tentative with the threat of a strong jab (which Fury possesses) coupled with respectfulness of his opponent's offence at all times and a lean back defensive style would minimise his chances of getting caught again.
Good points,

When Fury opened up his lazy jab got the better of him, and gets caught squared up and hands low in both instances;

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Old 04-23-2013, 07:03 AM   #13
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When Fury opened up his lazy jab got the better of him, and gets caught squared up and hands low in both instances;
He does, but look at the difference in outcome. The shot in the 4th was arguably harder, and flusher than the one in the 2nd and it just bounces off him. If that was Haye throwing that though he would have been unconscious for a week.

He's not chinny, just absolutely reckless.

The other thing he does regularly, and the shot in the 4th is a prime example - fall in after his jab instead of moving away and circling. Cunningham shold have been nowhere near within range of Fury after a triple jab.
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:09 AM   #14
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Said even before this fight Haye would crush him. He's too slow and sloppy, he has to improve his technique and reflexes but that will only come with time and experience if it comes at all.

I'd rate his chances against Povetkin who I don't rate too highly to be honest. If Tyson kept his head he could beat him.

Wladimir Klitschko would play with him to be honest. Tyson wouldn't be able to use his size advantage to get him out of trouble like he has numerous times. If Klitschko fought Fury like how he fought against Haye then there's no way Tyson would hear the final bell.

Even Price with his glass chin could spark him out. That fight is an absolute 50/50. It would all depend on who lands big on the other first. Fury has better movement than Price but David throws his combinations better. Still Britain's top heavyweight fight.
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:13 AM   #15
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It might be a good thing neither of those Cunningham punches actually landed on Tyson's chin!
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