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Old 06-23-2013, 02:01 AM   #1
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Default Which Heavyweight's resume is the best...

...after Ali's of course. I have looked at many of the great champs' careers, and while they all have a couple of big names on their lists, who's really stands out, and is worthy of being #2?
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Old 06-23-2013, 08:33 AM   #2
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Wladimir Klitschko by the numbers already has the best resume of all time and still going.

At 60-3 he has the best performance in title fights and the most HW fights of any boxer in history and has fought the heaviest opposition relative to any other champ.

Lennox Lewis and Vitali Klitschko also have comparable resume's.

These are the only 3 boxers worth considering when ranking resume's for top positions.



Muhammad Ali fought in a much weaker era than the 3 above and many other boxers who have more decent win opponents on their records.

Additionally Muhammad Ali's real HW record is only 28-4 (with the cruiser Spinks fight also deleted to be fair). As you can see Muhammad Ali doesn't rank when it comes to resume's.
Good god, your posts get more and more retarded wach time. It's quite a gift you have
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Old 06-23-2013, 09:21 AM   #3
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Old 06-23-2013, 03:22 PM   #4
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Default Re: Which Heavyweight's resume is the best...

If you accept the premise that Ali is #1, then Louis has to be #2.

You can argue about what order that pair should be ranked in, but I don't think there is much to argue about them being the top 2.

A more interesting question for me, is who is #3.
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Old 06-23-2013, 03:44 PM   #5
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Wladimir Klitschko by the numbers already has the best resume of all time and still going.

At 60-3 he has the best performance in title fights and the most HW fights of any boxer in history and has fought the heaviest opposition relative to any other champ.
If the criteria you use is:

Must of been a champion and then ties are broken with fights fought at the division, then the following pretty much of the top of my head are above Wlad:

Jack Dempsey
Sammy Langford
Harry Wills
Sam McVey
Joe Jeanette
Joe Louis
Arturo Godoy
Max Schmeling
Tommy Farr
Primo Carnera
Paulino Uzcudun
Joe Bugner
George Chuvalo
George Foreman
Larry Holmes
Butterbean...
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Old 06-23-2013, 03:59 PM   #6
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Well that is just absolutely silly criteria. If you wanna compare resumes you MUST delete all CW fights off the lists of old timers at the minimum. Otherwise you have to include them but ALSO include all CW's since it's inception as HW as well and the top dogs will likely be the CW's because they have more fights. As you can see that would be silly!
What exactly is a cruiserweight?

If a fighter weighs less than 200lbs, but they are not protected by a weight limit that restricts the size of their opponents, then they are not a cruiserweight.

Being successful in the cruiserweight division does not necessarily mean that you would have had the same success in a 175lb and up heavyweight division.
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Old 06-23-2013, 04:10 PM   #7
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Tunny has an underrated record. Top 10 at least.

Top 5 maybe?
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Wladimir Klitschko by the numbers already has the best resume of all time and still going.

At 60-3 he has the best performance in title fights and the most HW fights of any boxer in history and has fought the heaviest opposition relative to any other champ.

Lennox Lewis and Vitali Klitschko also have comparable resume's.

These are the only 3 boxers worth considering when ranking resume's for top positions.



Muhammad Ali fought in a much weaker era than the 3 above and many other boxers who have more decent win opponents on their records.

Additionally Muhammad Ali's real HW record is only 28-4 (with the cruiser Spinks fight also deleted to be fair). As you can see Muhammad Ali doesn't rank when it comes to resume's.
63 pro fights and he only fought 5 world champions. He hasn't fought a ranked contender close to 3 years. His record is shit.
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Well that is just absolutely silly criteria.
I quite agree, so why did you use it to justify your opening post?
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Lennox:

Klitschko
Tyson
Rahman
Tua
Botha
Undefeated Grant
Holyfield x2
Mavrovic
Briggs
Golota just after Bowe fights
Akinwande
McCall
Mercer
Morrison
Tucker
Bruno
Ruddock
Biggs
Mason
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Lennox:

Klitschko
Tyson
Rahman
Tua
Botha
Undefeated Grant
Holyfield x2
Mavrovic
Briggs
Golota just after Bowe fights
Akinwande
McCall
Mercer
Morrison
Tucker
Bruno
Ruddock
Biggs
Mason
Good, but unequivocaly not the best.
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Old 06-23-2013, 06:03 PM   #12
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Good, but unequivocaly not the best.
100% best h2h resume.
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100% best h2h resume.
With no disrespect to Mr Lewis, I must differ.
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Old 06-23-2013, 06:13 PM   #14
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With no disrespect to Mr Lewis, I must differ.
Who you got?
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Old 06-23-2013, 06:16 PM   #15
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Who you got?
Louis and Ali hold the top two spots, in whatever order you like.

Nobody else comes close to them in terms of stats.
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