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Old 05-19-2013, 06:48 AM   #106
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Default Re: Muhammad Ali 1974 v Vitali Klitschko 2004

Holyfield brawled because he loved to brawl.
Fighters always make mistakes no exceptions, Hearns had all the tools to beat Hagler had he boxed.
What he did instead was answering Hagler's invitation for a brawl with a yes.

When Holyfield got older he got smarter which is why he negated everything from Tyson instead on relying "just" his ability to take flush shots and be a warrior.

The only thing that would hinder Ali's boxing performances in todays boxing scene besides his age right now is his ability to clinch bigger men. Maybe if he gets some wrestle training he would still be a bull inside the clinch.
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Old 05-19-2013, 01:19 PM   #107
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Default Re: Muhammad Ali 1974 v Vitali Klitschko 2004

Conditioning wise and speed wise, Frazier II was Ali's 1970s peak. [Foreman versus Ali in Madison Square Garden that night would have been interesting indeed, as Ali would not have been using the rope a dope in that climate controlled environment on that familiar ring surface.] We later discovered in Manila that a heavier and more poorly trained Ali was capable of a surprising punch rate when Carlos Padilla took away his neck yanking and clinching tactics.

Put referee Padilla and 2004 Vitali in the MSG ring with the well conditioned 212 pound Ali of Frazier II, and Muhammad either dances away with a pedestrian decision, or produces a cut eye stoppage like Patterson II and Quarry I. Still too much speed, mobility and stamina for the bigger man.
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