why is hopkins a overated bum

mad-23 · 02-19-2008, 08:36 AM

i reckon bhop is guna get hit so many times hes guna feel like hes surrounded hes not in calzaghe the legend to see wat joes about watch him v mitchell

brown bomber · 02-19-2008, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mad-23

i reckon bhop is guna get hit so many times hes guna feel like hes surrounded hes not in calzaghe the legend to see wat joes about watch him v mitchell

Awesome post you really know your stuff. Well done.

D.Haye-no1-p4p · 02-19-2008, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mad-23

i reckon bhop is guna get hit so many times hes guna feel like hes surrounded hes not in calzaghe the legend to see wat joes about watch him v mitchell

Shut the fuck up.

Boro chris · 02-19-2008, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mad-23

i reckon bhop is guna get hit so many times hes guna feel like hes surrounded hes not in calzaghe the legend to see wat joes about watch him v mitchell

Well thats it I'm convinced!

Claypole · 02-19-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mad-23

i reckon bhop is guna get hit so many times hes guna feel like hes surrounded hes not in calzaghe the legend to see wat joes about watch him v mitchell

Please use English.

pjo479 · 02-19-2008, 02:02 PM

i reckon your one of the millions of british fans who thought hatton would beat mayweather as well or you just a plain out crackhead

rooq · 02-19-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mad-23

i believe that bernard hopkins is going to get hit so many times that he is going to feel like he is surrounded. he is not in the same league as calzaghe, who is a legend. if you would like to see how good joe is, watch him against mitchell.

fixed that for you.

Grievesy · 02-19-2008, 02:33 PM

I do agree with you that Joe will win. But i couldn't understand what you just posted.

02-19-2008, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mad-23

i reckon bhop is guna get hit so many times hes guna feel like hes surrounded hes not in calzaghe the legend to see wat joes about watch him v mitchell

Go back to the general section.

Claypole · 02-19-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dan-b

Go back to the general section.

Or back to school. I know there is no requirement here for perfect spelling and grammar, but I have noticed recently that some people make no effort whatsoever.
Not ideal if you're trying to converse with internet people.

02-19-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Claypole

Or back to school. I know there is no requirement here for perfect spelling and grammar, but I have noticed recently that some people make no effort whatsoever.
Not ideal if you're trying to converse with internet people.

Yup that as well. I just advised the same illiterate fool, on his Skelton thread, to change his username & linger for a bit because he's already made a prat of himself.

TheChamp1000 · 02-19-2008, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mad-23

i reckon bhop is guna get hit so many times hes guna feel like hes surrounded hes not in calzaghe the legend to see wat joes about watch him v mitchell

Lol I dont know what I expected when I seen a post heading "why is hopkins a overated bum" but upon reading the comment from the op. it somehow all seems to fit into place. Weird?

I hope by slapping my head in this manner the words from the op. will form into some kind of structure. ......nope, .......nope

better keep trying with this one

Farmboxer · 02-20-2008, 02:09 AM

I don't think Hopkins is overrated. Calzaghe will have to fight the provincial judges are ref, so it will make it more difficult, still, he should win big, but Hopkins is still dangerous.

jabber the gut · 02-20-2008, 04:06 AM

I think people may be giving bernard a bit too little credit.he is a very good wily old fighter he will give joe a good fight.i still think joe will win but give the guy a bit more credit .

Beatboxer · 02-20-2008, 04:31 AM

That was a shocking post.

Why is Hopkins overrated? I can't be bothered writing an essay but the obvious points are that his best wins during his 'legendary' reign at Middleweight are over 'the loss whore' Glen Johnson and a couple of blown up welters by the names of Felix Trinidad and Oscar De La Hoya. He also lost to the two best middleweights he ever faced, RJJ and Taylor.

Now to his light heavyweight campaign. He beat Antonio Tarver to gain almost universal recognition as the top man in the divison. OK a good win. However lets not pretend that Tarver was a great fighter. First Eric Harding had his way with him. In fairness Tarver avenged that loss and gave a weight drained and sickly looking Roy Jones a good fight but still ultimately loss. That being said, everyone recognised that superman Roy was getting older and perhaps this might have been the start of the inevitable slide that afflicts all fighters....the oncoming of age. Many on ESB picked Tarver i recall. So Tarver catches him and knocks him out. Good win nonetheless and Tarver has momentum which he subsequently squanders by losing to Johnson. Then he beates Johnson in a rematch and faces Hopkins and loses again. Got a bit of a habit of doing that that Tarver.

So here Hopkins is recognised as the top man at LHW. And what does this big shot do? Pretend hes going to climb to Heavyweight to regain Americas honour to get some publicity then signs to fight a blown up Junior Middleweight at LHW, struggles in sports but ultimately records a win.

Hopkins has been overrated, grossly overrated since late 2001. Im glad though. Because when Calzaghe defeats him by a wide margin he SHOULD get a whole ton of credit by the Hopkins sackswingers and the American media alike. However, we know that won't happen because they have their ready made excuses of 'hes old', 'hes past his prime' and to the more analytical naysayers 'we all already knew that Hopkins had lost to the best fighters he ever faced....it was sooooo obvious Calzaghe was going to whoop him...JC has to fight someone with a pulse fight Dawson!' and of course if he fights and beats Dawson hes just a prospect who fought nobody and was too inexperienced.

Anyway, for the reasons ive mentioned Hopkins is overrated. Does not mean hes not a very good fighter but i can't help but laugh when people mention him alongside the likes of Monzon and Hagler at middleweight....hes a tier below.

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pjo479 brooklyn brawler ESB Jr Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 242 vCash: 1000	Re: why is hopkins a overated bum i reckon your one of the millions of british fans who thought hatton would beat mayweather as well or you just a plain out crackhead
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Grievesy Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,063 vCash: 309	Re: why is hopkins a overated bum I do agree with you that Joe will win. But i couldn't understand what you just posted.
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02-20-2008, 02:09 AM	#13
Farmboxer ESB Junkie East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: USA Posts: 37,659 vCash: 1000	Re: why is hopkins a overated bum I don't think Hopkins is overrated. Calzaghe will have to fight the provincial judges are ref, so it will make it more difficult, still, he should win big, but Hopkins is still dangerous.
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02-20-2008, 04:06 AM	#14
jabber the gut newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: halifax Posts: 19 vCash: 1000	Re: why is hopkins a overated bum I think people may be giving bernard a bit too little credit.he is a very good wily old fighter he will give joe a good fight.i still think joe will win but give the guy a bit more credit .
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02-20-2008, 04:31 AM	#15
Beatboxer Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 7,722 vCash: 1000	Re: why is hopkins a overated bum That was a shocking post. Why is Hopkins overrated? I can't be bothered writing an essay but the obvious points are that his best wins during his 'legendary' reign at Middleweight are over 'the loss whore' Glen Johnson and a couple of blown up welters by the names of Felix Trinidad and Oscar De La Hoya. He also lost to the two best middleweights he ever faced, RJJ and Taylor. Now to his light heavyweight campaign. He beat Antonio Tarver to gain almost universal recognition as the top man in the divison. OK a good win. However lets not pretend that Tarver was a great fighter. First Eric Harding had his way with him. In fairness Tarver avenged that loss and gave a weight drained and sickly looking Roy Jones a good fight but still ultimately loss. That being said, everyone recognised that superman Roy was getting older and perhaps this might have been the start of the inevitable slide that afflicts all fighters....the oncoming of age. Many on ESB picked Tarver i recall. So Tarver catches him and knocks him out. Good win nonetheless and Tarver has momentum which he subsequently squanders by losing to Johnson. Then he beates Johnson in a rematch and faces Hopkins and loses again. Got a bit of a habit of doing that that Tarver. So here Hopkins is recognised as the top man at LHW. And what does this big shot do? Pretend hes going to climb to Heavyweight to regain Americas honour to get some publicity then signs to fight a blown up Junior Middleweight at LHW, struggles in sports but ultimately records a win. Hopkins has been overrated, grossly overrated since late 2001. Im glad though. Because when Calzaghe defeats him by a wide margin he SHOULD get a whole ton of credit by the Hopkins sackswingers and the American media alike. However, we know that won't happen because they have their ready made excuses of 'hes old', 'hes past his prime' and to the more analytical naysayers 'we all already knew that Hopkins had lost to the best fighters he ever faced....it was sooooo obvious Calzaghe was going to whoop him...JC has to fight someone with a pulse fight Dawson!' and of course if he fights and beats Dawson hes just a prospect who fought nobody and was too inexperienced. Anyway, for the reasons ive mentioned Hopkins is overrated. Does not mean hes not a very good fighter but i can't help but laugh when people mention him alongside the likes of Monzon and Hagler at middleweight....hes a tier below.
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