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Old 02-19-2008, 05:48 PM   #1
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Old 02-19-2008, 06:16 PM   #3
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With Foreman present, its a miracle that the other guys got anything to eat.
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Old 02-19-2008, 06:18 PM   #4
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anyone know what year it was in?

also was Frazier slurring his words or is it just me?
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Old 02-19-2008, 06:20 PM   #5
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anyone know what year it was in?

Circa '96, as far as I know.
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Old 02-19-2008, 08:35 PM   #6
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Yeah, that's from 1996, but it was added into the champions forever video from 1989.
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Old 02-19-2008, 08:45 PM   #7
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Yeah, that's from 1996, but it was added into the champions forever video from 1989.
And thats not from 1996. Look at Holmes and Ali. I'd put my life savings on it.
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Old 02-19-2008, 09:19 PM   #8
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Yeah, you're right, it's more 89ish. I heard it was from 1996 though. Maybe that was something else.
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Old 02-19-2008, 09:40 PM   #9
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No way.....That was in late 1988 or 1989.....Ali still looked fairly healthy...And Foreman was still fresh on the comeback trail. Foreman actually looked pretty young and fairly lean in the face. Holmes was fat, and Frazier was somewhat drunk.
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Old 02-19-2008, 10:08 PM   #10
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Frazier wasn't drunk from too much beer or wine, he's punch drunk. Larry always looks fat in suits, and Foreman still had a lean face when he retired. His face got puffy about 5 years ago when he really started to slip again.
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:16 AM   #11
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Geez Larry is very ****y in part 3. Saying he could've beaten everyone in his prime. Great video though.
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:48 AM   #12
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Old 02-20-2008, 11:32 AM   #13
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I bought the Champions Forever video way back when it came out. It was a pretty good video other than the fact that it was so pro-Ali and basically relegated all of the other fighters to bit parts. It was basically an Ali video with pieces of the other fighters' careers thrown in for good measure. And for Larry Holmes, a champion for almost 8 years, they only showed two of his fights: his wins over Norton and Ali. They didn't cover any of his other fights. They even showed more of Noton than they did of Holmes, despite Holmes having had the much better career.
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Old 02-20-2008, 11:51 AM   #14
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I bought the Champions Forever video way back when it came out. It was a pretty good video other than the fact that it was so pro-Ali and basically relegated all of the other fighters to bit parts. It was basically an Ali video with pieces of the other fighters' careers thrown in for good measure. And for Larry Holmes, a champion for almost 8 years, they only showed two of his fights: his wins over Norton and Ali. They didn't cover any of his other fights. They even showed more of Noton than they did of Holmes, despite Holmes having had the much better career.
Come to think of it, I seem to remember it being that way too. When I was 15 years old in 1989, the video came out on VHS, and I was working in a grocery store as a bagger. We were selling it on one of our stands, and I picked up a copy. I probably still have it sitting in a box somewhere, but don't even have a VHS player anymore to view it

Anyway, I can remember wondering why they didn't show more of Holmes or Foreman's fights. Or for that matter why they didn't show how Norton beat Jimmy Young, etc. The video was very biased towards Muhamad Ali.
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Old 02-20-2008, 11:52 AM   #15
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I value my DVD with this priceless footage, Reggie did pretty good, but, yes, Holmes was underutilized, even reduced at one point to playing with something on the table.

Interesting how Holmes says the only one he would have trouble with is Jack Johnson. But he was right when he said to an Ali, uncharacteristically calling on "the experts" to decide who was the greatest, "No! You and me are better experts than them!"
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