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Old 05-14-2013, 03:31 PM   #91
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Eddie has said in many a interview that he realises that a lot of hardcore boxing fans hate Prizefighter yet he carries on with it, so he must be catering for the casual fans with that and now he's doing it with PPV.

What do the hardcore element get? a normal fight card every blue moon on sky sports, its not good enough.
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:34 PM   #92
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I know, that's what I'm saying, there needs to be some balance.
I agree. But the correct...normal & logical thing for your clients to do it that case would be to not hire you, not hire you and then not pay you.
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:36 PM   #93
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Eddie has said in many a interview that he realises that a lot of hardcore boxing fans hate Prizefighter yet he carries on with it, so he must be catering for the casual fans with that and now he's doing it with PPV.

What do the hardcore element get? a normal fight card every blue moon on sky sports, its not good enough.
In general, what the hardcore fight fans wants is unrealistic.

Everytime PF gets slated I use this example. When PF clashed with the Price v Thompson card, all the hardcore fans on here were watching Prizeifghter and not the two British title fights on BoxNation.
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:37 PM   #94
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I agree. But the correct...normal & logical thing for your clients to do it that case would be to not hire you, not hire you and then not pay you.
If I done a half arsed job I wouldn't expect to be paid, my work is always top quality so its never an issue,.
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:38 PM   #95
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In general, what the hardcore fight fans wants is unrealistic.

Everytime PF gets slated I use this example. When PF clashed with the Price v Thompson card, all the hardcore fans on here were watching Prizeifghter and not the two British title fights on BoxNation.
And that was because of a man called Audley, sod all to do with the format.
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:40 PM   #96
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If I done a half arsed job I wouldn't expect to be paid, my work is always top quality so its never an issue,.
So if the Bellew v Chilemba fight turns out to be quality, and Groves v whoever is FOTY....you gonna order a repeat of the PPV for 15quid?
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:41 PM   #97
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Eddie has said in many a interview that he realises that a lot of hardcore boxing fans hate Prizefighter yet he carries on with it, so he must be catering for the casual fans with that and now he's doing it with PPV.

What do the hardcore element get? a normal fight card every blue moon on sky sports, its not good enough.
Hardcore fans who bitch whine and complain aren't the people that make fighters rich.

Sorry, but you all massively overstate your importance.
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:41 PM   #98
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If they only catered for the hardcore element boxing would have died a death a long time ago Bill.

A truly stupid statement to make.
He didn't say that though
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He didn't say that though
Yes he did.

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caters for piss head football/casual fans instead of the hardcore element
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Eddie has said in many a interview that he realises that a lot of hardcore boxing fans hate Prizefighter yet he carries on with it, so he must be catering for the casual fans with that and now he's doing it with PPV.

What do the hardcore element get? a normal fight card every blue moon on sky sports, its not good enough.
Hardcore fans get fights like Choi-simpson,Crolla-Matthews and Frampton-Martinez but there needs to be more of them.It`s a fine balanceing act for him because he has to chase ratings to keep his Sky deal.It`s a shame for him that the Haye fight isn`t happening(hardcore fans know it`s a shit fight) because it would guantee great ratings.I`m sure on a IFilm interview he said 4 prizefighters a year would be what he will be looking for in the future which isn`t so bad if he got more proper dates as well.Also there a few hardcore fans who if the line up is decent think it`s a bit of fun,I have been to one and the atmoshere was good.
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:47 PM   #101
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Hardcore fans who bitch whine and complain aren't the people that make fighters rich.

Sorry, but you all massively overstate your importance.
So boxing could survive without fans that read and follow it every day?
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:51 PM   #102
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So boxing could survive without fans that read and follow it every day?
You need both.
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:53 PM   #103
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Yes he did.
The statement,

"caters for piss head football/casual fans instead of the hardcore element"

doesn't translate into,

"If they only catered for the hardcore element boxing would have died a death a long time ago Bill."


Both parties can be catered for on a boxing card, especially a ppv one
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:54 PM   #104
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So if the Bellew v Chilemba fight turns out to be quality, and Groves v whoever is FOTY....you gonna order a repeat of the PPV for 15quid?
No I wouldn't because it's still wasn't PPV worthy in the first place, you don't buy a PPV hoping to be surprised that its good do you.
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:54 PM   #105
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So boxing could survive without fans that read and follow it every day?
Of course not, but it's the wider general public that put the vast, vast majority of the money in the pockets of the top fighters.

Why do you think BoxNation is struggling so much?
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