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Old 05-14-2013, 03:55 PM   #106
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The statement,

"caters for piss head football/casual fans instead of the hardcore element"

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"If they only catered for the hardcore element boxing would have died a death a long time ago Bill."


Both parties can be catered for on a boxing card, especially a ppv one
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:57 PM   #107
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The statement,

"caters for piss head football/casual fans instead of the hardcore element"

doesn't translate into,
Clearly our understanding of the word 'instead' is very different.
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:58 PM   #108
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Of course not, but it's the wider general public that put the vast, vast majority of the money in the pockets of the top fighters.

Why do you think BoxNation is struggling so much?
I do agree of course new fans need to be brought into the sport but not at the expense of the people that watch it all the time, what brings new fans into the sport are good fights and value for money, Froch/Kessler is a good fight but that on its own is not value for money, especially when there's so little boxing on sky.
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I do agree of course new fans need to be brought into the sport but not at the expense of the people that watch it all the time, what brings new fans into the sport are good fights and value for money, Froch/Kessler is a good fight but that on its own is not value for money, especially when there's so little boxing on sky.
Sorry, but you have a very idealistic few on life and sport it would seem. Nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't fit in with the current status quo.

Look at football, at all levels the 'average' man who loves his team is being priced out and left to stand and watch as his club prices him out and looks to bring in the corporates.

I find it disgusting, but sport is as much a business as anything else nowadays.
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Old 05-14-2013, 04:11 PM   #110
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Sorry, but you have a very idealistic few on life and sport it would seem. Nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't fit in with the current status quo.

Look at football, at all levels the 'average' man who loves his team is being priced out and left to stand and watch as his club prices him out and looks to bring in the corporates.

I find it disgusting, but sport is as much a business as anything else nowadays.
That's a fair point, I understand what you are saying but I don't want to just roll over and go along with whatever bullshit occurs when I don't agree with it, I am well aware that nobody is going to listen to a 28 year old glorified plumber with a bit of a beer belly but for my own sanity I won't go along with these corporate needs.
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Old 05-14-2013, 04:30 PM   #111
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Well I am and its not really up for debate.
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If you want to moan about me not buying the PPV, moan to your pal Eddie for not making it worth the money, its his fault I'm not buying it.


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Old 05-14-2013, 04:32 PM   #112
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That's a fair point, I understand what you are saying but I don't want to just roll over and go along with whatever bullshit occurs when I don't agree with it, I am well aware that nobody is going to listen to a 28 year old glorified plumber with a bit of a beer belly but for my own sanity I won't go along with these corporate needs.
Thats not just boxing or sport mate its the world. I am sure your business has been ****ed over because a bunch of bankers couldn't keep there egos in check!
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Old 05-14-2013, 04:35 PM   #113
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Sorry, but you have a very idealistic few on life and sport it would seem. Nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't fit in with the current status quo.

Look at football, at all levels the 'average' man who loves his team is being priced out and left to stand and watch as his club prices him out and looks to bring in the corporates.

I find it disgusting, but sport is as much a business as anything else nowadays.
Long term these sports, and boxing will see an affect.

Hearn is doing exactly what he has been critical of Frank for doing. Boxing is in the shit state its in in this country because of fans getting ripped off. Hearn is ripping the fans off with this PPV.
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Old 05-14-2013, 04:41 PM   #114
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that's in response to people saying what would we do without BoxNation for international fights. I said I preferred it before when I would watch online.

I would subscribe to BoxNation but still watch the fights online allot of the time.
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If I am going to be able to sit down and watch 3-4 hours of quality boxing I am happy to pay 15 for it. 45minutes I will just stream it. I wouldn't fund bullshit like this.
^^When Groves opponent was named.
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if the undercard was stacked I would pay the $$$
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Old 05-14-2013, 04:43 PM   #116
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Fair do's.



^^When Groves opponent was named.
you got me. People often say things they do not mean when they are angry. I would have gone to a mates or watched in a bar.
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Old 05-14-2013, 04:46 PM   #117
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Thats not just boxing or sport mate its the world. I am sure your business has been ****ed over because a bunch of bankers couldn't keep there egos in check!
Sadly I do mate, the bank is giving me no end of grief and I had a company go bust on me owing me about 14 grand just after Christmas, they was a limited company so there was **** all I could really do, if I was to say the recession hasn't hit me I'd be a bare faced liar.
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Old 05-14-2013, 04:48 PM   #118
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you got me. People often say things they do not mean when they are angry. I would have gone to a mates or watched in a bar.
Fair enough.

I was on here shouting about cancelling my Boxnation when the Burns fiasco kicked off. Didnt do it and they ended up putting on a great coupla months.

You'd have streamed it though.
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Old 05-14-2013, 04:54 PM   #119
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Fair enough.

I was on here shouting about cancelling my Boxnation when the Burns fiasco kicked off. Didnt do it and they ended up putting on a great coupla months.

You'd have streamed it though.
Well I don't live in England so I can't get BoxNation. Most of the big fights are avalible on US tv and if there not I stream them.

I got rid of BoxNation long before I left the country though. I just wasn't watching it. But it never got taken of my Sky box so I had it for free for 4 months. I rang BoxNation and told them as I was paranoid they would charge me and the muppet on the phone just said "Oh ok we will turn it off" and they didn't.

In my opinion watching an illegal stream is more morally justifiable than giving money to Frank.
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Old 05-14-2013, 05:03 PM   #120
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Clearly our understanding of the word 'instead' is very different.
No I think our understaning of the word 'instead' would be the same. Other things not
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