Everything wrong about boxing preceded by everything right.

[brown bomber]

Originally Posted by TFFP

I'm not too bothered about your respect, but considering you just got your little panties in a twist when some other bloke said that you look a bit of a knob

Carl Johanneson doesn't even have the bottle to fight a domestic opponent. He didn't even look like he was trying to make weight, he's a waste of space

Dunstan...very very average in terms of world level

They hardly represent rolemodels for Khan's route to glory. I'd say Hatton/Calzaghe are far better comparisons. As I've pointed out, Khan is ahead of them, and is a lot younger, so he is doing absolutely fine

lol panties? Johanson- making weight? Have you been smoking your dads roll ups?

[brown bomber]

Originally Posted by Claypole

Michael Gomez would probably disagree with you.

ER Micheal Gomez is very average in world terms....

Originally Posted by jeff thomas

lol panties? Johanson- making weight? Have you been smoking your dads roll ups?

You been living under a rock? That cat didn't even try to make weight for Mitchell, he knew he'd lame out hence he had about 5 chins at the conference. Way to go, I hope Khan reaches his level!

[brown bomber]

Originally Posted by TFFP

You been living under a rock? That cat didn't even try to make weight for Mitchell, he knew he'd lame out hence he had about 5 chins at the conference. Way to go, I hope Khan reaches his level!

Since when do you have to make weight for a press conference and if he bottled it why has he suddenly changed his mind.... Anyway why even watch him- he's very average...?

[elle]

Originally Posted by jeff thomas

Careful he will lose respect for you

As the Aretha song goes - 'R-E-S-P-E-C-T' find out what it means to me ....

People don't need to agree in order to have mutual respect.

Originally Posted by jeff thomas

Since when do you have to make weight for a press conference and if he bottled it why has he suddenly changed his mind.... Anyway why even watch him- he's very average...?

The point is, his lazy ass hadn't even started training when Mitchell had been going for weeks. He never ever looked like taking that fight. He's unprofessional at the very least

Why wouldn't I watch him? I'm a fan of boxing, I don't just watch the elite. I have to call a spade a spade, and Johanesson is not even close to world class, and I don't see how he's done things better than Khan

[Claypole]

Originally Posted by jeff thomas

ER Micheal Gomez is very average in world terms....

Yes, but he qualifies as a "domestic opponent", my point being that Johanneson certainly showed "bottle" during that fight.

[brown bomber]

Originally Posted by TFFP

The point is, his lazy ass hadn't even started training when Mitchell had been going for weeks. He never ever looked like taking that fight. He's unprofessional at the very least

Why wouldn't I watch him? I'm a fan of boxing, I don't just watch the elite. I have to call a spade a spade, and Johanesson is not even close to world class, and I don't see how he's done things better than Khan

Your point was compairable opposition and CJ's opposition was at least comparible to Khans due to the fact Harold Grey was a superior world champion to Gairy St Claire.

[brown bomber]

By De La Hoyas 16th fight he was a two time world champion.

If you are going to go through every boxer from every nation you will find your fair share fighting world champions before their 16th

The point still stands that Khan has done more than most thus far, and more to the point he has eclipsed what most of our current crop had achieved and at a much younger age. This is why I feel the criticism is out of proportion. I always expect some with Khan, people are impatient due to the hype, but it's way out of hand

Every motherfucker is on his back, and it's not really fair. Anybody would think he's on 25 fights, and he's 28 entering his prime years

[brown bomber]

Originally Posted by TFFP

If you are going to go through every boxer from every nation you will find your fair share fighting world champions before their 16th

The point still stands that Khan has done more than most thus far, and more to the point he has eclipsed what most of our current crop had achieved and at a much younger age. This is why I feel the criticism is out of proportion. I always expect some with Khan, people are impatient due to the hype, but it's way out of hand

Every motherfucker is on his back, and it's not really fair. Anybody would think he's on 25 fights, and he's 28 entering his prime years

Well if thats the case don't go calling out everyone promising the world. Look what that did to Audleys popularity. The funny thing is I'm a Khan fan.

Originally Posted by jeff thomas

Well if thats the case don't go calling out everyone promising the world. Look what that did to Audleys popularity. The funny thing is I'm a Khan fan.

Yeah, you sure seem like it

He must have a lot of 'fans' on here then

[brown bomber]

i'm a supporter. . . I want him to do well and achieve what he is capable of. Thats why i take offence to him been mis managed.

Once again another great thread stated by Jeff, very true account and unfortunetly exactly how we all expected events to turn out.


Of course all Khan fans will be defending him past any shadow of common sense but that is to be expected too of the "Hype man" and his ilk.


Will people also stop mentioning the likes of Casamor and Katsidis in the same sentance as Khan because we all already know he has not got the bottle to fight an opponent who can punch back.

[elle]

Originally Posted by jeff thomas

i'm a supporter. . . I want him to do well and achieve what he is capable of. Thats why i take offence to him been mis managed.

I can appreciate why you think Khan is being mismanaged - but he is hardly a reluctant party being forced to go along this chosen route against his wishes.

If anything it seems to me it is Khan himself that is the one more obsessed with becoming britains youngest world champ than his handlers and it is them pandering to him.

It hasn't always been the case as, at times, ****** has almost tried to play it down. I just wonder if part of the reason he is so willing to indulge Khan now is because it is rumoured that Khan's contract with SN is up soon? What better way to encourage Khan to renew than dangle a World Title opportunity right in front of him?