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Old 02-22-2008, 07:02 PM   #31
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I suppose they may be considered equal - as you posted, and as the question could be interpreted.

There is a weird mathematical enigma I'm currently curious about regarding punching power. While I don't really expect to find an answer here, I've never cared for enigmas
I'm not talking about punching power!!

I am talking about the split between power and speed. I'd never be so silly as to talk percentiles and such of power - it's an anigma as you say.
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Old 02-22-2008, 07:06 PM   #32
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I think you need to read my initial post again. I explained I would have included De La Hoya but he doesn't have enough power to be considered IMO. I did go slightly off the rails and never gave a list or an opinon strictly on criteria asked, but from reading my post thats fairly obvious.
This is what you said

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Yep. If it was just combos alone he'd be up there.
Seems to me you think "combo's" are included by that post. What would i know tho
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Old 02-22-2008, 07:06 PM   #33
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JT. When I seen "combo" I thought it was combination punches with speed and power. But yeah I see what it means now, a combination of both speed and power. You got my drift, and I got the the thread's drift after a little help from yourself.

Misinterpreted.
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Old 02-22-2008, 07:12 PM   #34
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I'm not talking about punching power!!

I am talking about the split between power and speed. I'd never be so silly as to talk percentiles and such of power - it's an anigma as you say.
I'm primarily concerned regarding speed and how it may relate to punching power in a boxing sense - regarding a mathemathical construct.

What is your definition/equation of a boxer's power? You see, If I can get a glimpse of your thought process regarding power, it just might make a difference in other areas.
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Old 02-22-2008, 08:14 PM   #35
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1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Sugar Ray Leonard
3. Roberto Duran
4. Roy Jones
5. Meldrick Taylor
6. Terry Norris
7. Mike Tyson
8. Oscar de la Hoya
9. Floyd Mayweather, Jr
10. Ray Mancini

A quick List With a couple diff names than Other's list's..
Tho I Can't say who's right or wrong, All Lists are Great .
No Hearns but you have Mancini?
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Old 02-22-2008, 08:22 PM   #36
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1. Tyson.
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Old 02-22-2008, 08:45 PM   #37
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No mention of McClellan?
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Old 02-23-2008, 06:26 AM   #38
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JT. When I seen "combo" I thought it was combination punches with speed and power. But yeah I see what it means now, a combination of both speed and power. You got my drift, and I got the the thread's drift after a little help from yourself.

Misinterpreted.
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Old 02-23-2008, 06:35 AM   #39
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I'm primarily concerned regarding speed and how it may relate to punching power in a boxing sense - regarding a mathemathical construct.

What is your definition/equation of a boxer's power? You see, If I can get a glimpse of your thought process regarding power, it just might make a difference in other areas.
I leave the EC=MV squared equations regarding power to others mate. I don't think anybody will ever explain it sufficiently or completely.

I mean per obvious examples per comparative purposes are a slow heavy handed Foreman and a fast punching bomber like Tyson, so utterly different in delivery yet both are bonifide fight ending specialists.

Then we have skinny rangy (some might say almost frail builds at times) guys like Hearns, Foster and Breland who have great speed of delivery and massive power many say is gained thru that speed combined with decent leverage.

BUT - then we have an Arguello, tall, rangy and skinny like Hearns and co. but also having very average handspeed. I mean what is going on there? We can't loook at fast twitch in this case IMO. Punchers, like their math, is very hard to define. Now scuse me while i get my third beer

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Old 02-25-2008, 04:25 AM   #40
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Tyson, Hamed, Jones Jr are best at speed and power combo IMO

(at least from the more recent ones)
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Old 02-25-2008, 09:16 AM   #41
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Mike Tyson
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Ray Robinson
Roy Jones
Ray Leonard
Thomas Hearns
Donald Curry
Roberto Duran
Ezzard Charles
Joe Louis.
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