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Old 07-10-2007, 10:48 AM   #16
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I like Taylor, but he's been spinning his wheels too long, time for a new champ, who actually likes to mix it up.
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:53 AM   #17
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"We just can't make this weight anymore," Nelson told the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette. "We're not going to kill ourselves to make 160. This weight has been a problem for a long time. We've hired a nutritionist, done everything we can. I'm not going to make him do this anymore. It's time to move up."

Yea yea Yea--Taylor knows deep down that pavlik is going to hurt him badly and the doubt in his mind and his camps mind on if he can beat pavlik is weighing heavily on him. Already complaining about the weight and its three months prior to the fight. Lets see--Taylors last fight against spinks there was not one mention of weight problems to my knowledge. Oh wait, could that be because he thought he had no trouble beating spinks in the YAWNFEST fight of the year. Now--when he is mandated to fight pavlik, the #1 contender, he is complaining about making weight and how it kills him to do so. It kills pavlik too. Thats no damn excuse, its their freakin job to make weight. Sounds to me that taylor is taking the same road as that bum Edison Miranda took. Crying about weight, only difference is Taylor is doing it before the fight not after. I cant wait till sept. 29.
This doesnt suprise me. Steward had high words for Miranda, said hes a pretty good fighter and then came Pavlick and destroyed him but it was clear to see that Miranda had weight issues. Steward is afraid that it will be the same with Taylor, he could maybe make weight, but it would be hard for him and to risky against a guy like Pavlick, i think Steward is afraid of Pavlick so hes bringing already the excuses.
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:10 AM   #18
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Manny knows that taylors days are behind him and that him winning and beating up on flyweights is over. He is afraid of pavlik and its showing already. They have to finalize the fight by friday though. He still has three days to back out--
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:12 AM   #19
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"We just can't make this weight anymore," James told the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette. "We're not going to kill ourselves to make 260. This weight has been a problem for a long time. We've hired a nutritionist, done everything we can. I'm not going to make this anymore. It's time to move up."

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Old 07-10-2007, 11:17 AM   #20
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lillarry- I get the catalog in the mail when a new one comes out, so unlessit's on the Everlast website, probably not. I will give it to Taylor- I've always wondered how he makes 160- Look at the tale of the tape for his fights- even against Hopkins- Taylor has an enormous neck and big arms and legs. Light heavy proportions and measurements. How he hits like a middleweight Pernell Whitaker, I don't know. He should be hitting like a mule! Reason #36 I have no respect for the guy. (by the way, reason #35 is him allowing himself to be bossed around by undersized, underpowered, underskilled, and underpaid Kassim Ouma) If you're a guy that big with that kind of reach, learn how to back someone up or at least off with a jab! For as much respect as I have for Manny Steward, he hasn't done much for capitalizing on Taylor's natural gifts.
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:23 AM   #21
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Taylor by UD. Pavlik isn't ready for someone as good as Taylor.
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:30 AM   #22
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Don't mistake being tough for being good. Taylor is a tough guy. He has no ring smarts at all. None. He is a big physical presence in the ring, but I don't see much skill, no power, and no ring intelligence. That would be due to the fact that he is not a student of the game. Not saying Pavlik is some savvy ring technician, but Taylor is just a big middleweight who has used his size. How he beat Hopkins (only the second time, in my opinion) I don't know. I blame Hopkins more for his lack of action than Taylor's "superiority".
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:32 AM   #23
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Taylor by UD. Pavlik isn't ready for someone as good as Taylor.
Whats so good about him?

Pavlik by TKO. Taylor's goose is cooked.
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:33 AM   #24
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Don't mistake being tough for being good. Taylor is a tough guy. He has no ring smarts at all. None. He is a big physical presence in the ring, but I don't see much skill, no power, and no ring intelligence. That would be due to the fact that he is not a student of the game. Not saying Pavlik is some savvy ring technician, but Taylor is just a big middleweight who has used his size. How he beat Hopkins (only the second time, in my opinion) I don't know. I blame Hopkins more for his lack of action than Taylor's "superiority".
Man, you took the words right out of my mouth.

Great post, Newbie!
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:36 AM   #25
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Whats so good about him?

Pavlik by TKO. Taylor's goose is cooked.
He's better than Kelly.
He has a great jab and been in with the best Wright, Hopkins and Spinks.

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Old 07-10-2007, 11:40 AM   #26
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People are underestimating Pavliks boxing skills.

He was a far better amatuer than Taylor. Taylor gets stopped in this fight, his chin got dented against Hopkins, who not a big puncher.
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:46 AM   #27
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He's better than Kelly.
He has a great jab and been in with the best Wright, Hopkins and Spinks.
"He's better than Kelly." Tell me at exactly what is he better at? Not boxing.

BTW, Kelly KO's those guys you mentioned, too.

Are you blind? Do you even watch these fights? Stop being so biased, will ya!

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Old 07-10-2007, 11:49 AM   #28
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"He's better than Kelly." Tell me at exactly what is he better at? Not boxing.

BTW, Kelly KO's those guys you mentioned, too.

Are you blind? Do you even watch these fights? Stop being so biased, will ya!


You are dreaming if you think Pavlik would KO Wright or Hopkins
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:50 AM   #29
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Exactly even before the Miranda fight Pavlik's team were talking about a move to supermiddle.
Obviously they thought it in his best interest to take the Miranda fight on HBO and it has certainly paid dividends.

Taylor will smash him though.
Taylor couldnt touch Spinks who cant break an egg.

There goes your credibility.
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:53 AM   #30
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"He's better than Kelly." Tell me at exactly what is he better at? Not boxing.

BTW, Kelly KO's those guys you mentioned, too.

Are you blind? Do you even watch these fights? Stop being so biased, will ya!

Are you ****ing kidding me? No way in hell does he KO Hopkins and Winky schools his ass and gives him a boxing lesson. Start a poll buddy if you're so confident in your prediction of Kelly Koing Hopkins and Wright. Hopkins dropped Tarver a 175 pound champ who hits harder than Kelly does but Kelly will KO him??? Get the **** outta here you're too biased to have a real opinion on this fight just like the Adamek-Dawson fight.
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