David Tua vs. Sonny Liston

Russell · 02-25-2008, 04:26 PM

Might be interesting.

Liston was not known to go the distance, or even go very long period.

Tua could remain very, VERY consistent, and stopped more then a few fighters late.

Liston was never a invulnerable fighter, and Tua had an unbelievable chin.

Thoughts?

PowerPuncher · 02-25-2008, 04:42 PM

Tua is said to have a granite chin BUT Lennox rocked him and had him hurt but didnt capitalise. Would a more aggressive Liston be able to KO Tua? Possible. Listons more compact punches get there first and open up a lead and maybe a KO. Even if it goes the 12-15 Liston survives and proves the better boxer

Sardu · 02-25-2008, 04:47 PM

Great matchup! I think the Liston jab would really be troublesome for the short, squat, compact Tua. Tua I believe is really about 5-9 and that ramrod jab of Sonny's would move him back. Tua's durability could make him go the distance but I doubt he would win any rounds.

Liston busts up the New Zealander enroute to a virtual shutout win.

Liston UD

brooklyn1550 · 02-25-2008, 05:04 PM

Tua couldn't get past Liston's jab. If Liston kept this a fight on the outside, he would win easy.

Liston UD

Russell · 02-25-2008, 05:18 PM

Meh, I think some people have seen too much later career Tua where he was 25 pounds overweight for years on end.

He literally fought at a little over 200.

Holmes' Jab · 02-25-2008, 05:30 PM

Liston, wide UD (ala Lewis vs Tua).

ChrisPontius · 02-25-2008, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by brooklyn1550

Tua couldn't get past Liston's jab. If Liston kept this a fight on the outside, he would win easy.

Liston UD

To those who say Liston does to Tua what Lewis did to Tua, when did Liston ever fight off the backfoot behind the jab for longer than 10 seconds?

Robbi · 02-25-2008, 06:18 PM

Liston would beat Tua. He's got a better jab, although Tua's left hook would be a very handy weapon. It would be the punch he'd need and its really the only weapon worth talking about in his arsenal. Tua comes towards his opponents in straight lines and lacks the all round ability to deal with a great as accomplished as Liston.

Big N Bad · 02-26-2008, 04:38 AM

A very interesting match up.

few things to note. sonny liston has been backed up by lesser oppositions (george 'scrap iron johnson) he was also 5'9, very tough without deadly power.
also liston is no lennox lewis either, he de may have the reach but he doesnt have the height.

i dont see this fight going the distance. one thing i like about tua is that not only does he have a great chin, he has great composure. he doesnt make any facial expression when tagged, he stays focused on the job with a professional like attitude. i dont see tua getting sparked in this fight.

the problem for tua will be sonny's ramrod left jab. oh my what a jab it is. tua struggled with rahman's ramrod jab, so no doubt sonny will trouble him with the jab.

i see a knockout early for either fight, imo most likely tua, or after a war of attrition, a UD to liston.

janitor · 02-26-2008, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisPontius

To those who say Liston does to Tua what Lewis did to Tua, when did Liston ever fight off the backfoot behind the jab for longer than 10 seconds?

The think is that he generaly didnt need to for more than 10 seaconds.

Liston was not a mover like Lewis but a master of milling on the retreat in the mould of Joe Louis. He would back up just enough to plant his feet keep his oponent coming towards him and walking into his bombs face first. While he would put himself at greater risk than Lewis he would get a more impresive turn on his investment.

If you were prepared to play that game with either Louis or Liston you generaly thought better of it after a verry short period. Like Max Baer after he tried it against Louios ant thought better of it-

"OK so what the f*** do I do now??"

Mendoza · 02-26-2008, 08:06 AM

Liston wins. Tua doesn't get past his jab.

02-25-2008, 04:26 PM	#1
Russell Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 12,102 vCash: 75	David Tua vs. Sonny Liston Might be interesting. Liston was not known to go the distance, or even go very long period. Tua could remain very, VERY consistent, and stopped more then a few fighters late. Liston was never a invulnerable fighter, and Tua had an unbelievable chin. Thoughts?
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02-25-2008, 04:42 PM	#2
PowerPuncher P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 20,386 vCash: 1000	Re: David Tua vs. Sonny Liston Tua is said to have a granite chin BUT Lennox rocked him and had him hurt but didnt capitalise. Would a more aggressive Liston be able to KO Tua? Possible. Listons more compact punches get there first and open up a lead and maybe a KO. Even if it goes the 12-15 Liston survives and proves the better boxer
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02-25-2008, 04:47 PM	#3
Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,638 vCash: 1000	Re: David Tua vs. Sonny Liston Great matchup! I think the Liston jab would really be troublesome for the short, squat, compact Tua. Tua I believe is really about 5-9 and that ramrod jab of Sonny's would move him back. Tua's durability could make him go the distance but I doubt he would win any rounds. Liston busts up the New Zealander enroute to a virtual shutout win. Liston UD
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02-25-2008, 05:04 PM	#4
brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 12,024 vCash: 1000	Re: David Tua vs. Sonny Liston Tua couldn't get past Liston's jab. If Liston kept this a fight on the outside, he would win easy. Liston UD
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02-25-2008, 05:18 PM	#5
Russell Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 12,102 vCash: 75	Re: David Tua vs. Sonny Liston Meh, I think some people have seen too much later career Tua where he was 25 pounds overweight for years on end. He literally fought at a little over 200.
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02-25-2008, 05:30 PM	#6
Holmes' Jab Master Jabber ESB Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,517 vCash: 1000	Re: David Tua vs. Sonny Liston Liston, wide UD (ala Lewis vs Tua). Last edited by taino; 03-03-2007 at 08:19 PM.
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02-25-2008, 06:18 PM	#8
Robbi Marvelous East Side Guru Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: UK Posts: 7,549 vCash: 1000	Re: David Tua vs. Sonny Liston Liston would beat Tua. He's got a better jab, although Tua's left hook would be a very handy weapon. It would be the punch he'd need and its really the only weapon worth talking about in his arsenal. Tua comes towards his opponents in straight lines and lacks the all round ability to deal with a great as accomplished as Liston.
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02-26-2008, 04:38 AM	#9
Big N Bad Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 995 vCash: 1000	Re: David Tua vs. Sonny Liston A very interesting match up. few things to note. sonny liston has been backed up by lesser oppositions (george 'scrap iron johnson) he was also 5'9, very tough without deadly power. also liston is no lennox lewis either, he de may have the reach but he doesnt have the height. i dont see this fight going the distance. one thing i like about tua is that not only does he have a great chin, he has great composure. he doesnt make any facial expression when tagged, he stays focused on the job with a professional like attitude. i dont see tua getting sparked in this fight. the problem for tua will be sonny's ramrod left jab. oh my what a jab it is. tua struggled with rahman's ramrod jab, so no doubt sonny will trouble him with the jab. i see a knockout early for either fight, imo most likely tua, or after a war of attrition, a UD to liston.
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02-26-2008, 08:06 AM	#11
Mendoza Dominating a decade East Side VIP Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 12,785 vCash: 1000	Re: David Tua vs. Sonny Liston Liston wins. Tua doesn't get past his jab.
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