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Old 11-19-2013, 04:51 PM   #1
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Default If we had same day weigh ins who would be champ of what division?

After the official weigh in fighters tend to blow up over night. Who would be champ of what division if we still had same day weigh ins?

There are 2 obvious ones; Wlad at heavy and Floyd at JMW and WW

I think ward would be LHW champ, and probably Stevenson/Kov @ CW.

Who would be the man at each weight class?

HW : Wlad
CW: Stevenson/Kov
LHW: Ward
MW
LMW: Floyd
WW: Floyd
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Old 11-19-2013, 04:59 PM   #2
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chavez jr heavyweight the fat ****
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Old 11-19-2013, 05:00 PM   #3
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Default Re: If we had same day weigh ins who would be champ of what division?

If we had same day weigh-ins, we'd be spending a lot more time talking about boxers getting seriously hurt in the ring. I know this doesn't answer your question but I'm not sure how to really answer it when I think same day weigh-ins are a really bad idea from a safety point of view.
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Old 11-19-2013, 05:22 PM   #4
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If we had same day weigh-ins, we'd be spending a lot more time talking about boxers getting seriously hurt in the ring. I know this doesn't answer your question but I'm not sure how to really answer it when I think same day weigh-ins are a really bad idea from a safety point of view.

I have been around the game for over 3 decades so I know why same day is no longer around but HBO and Showtime do unofficial same day weigh ins, based on those who would be the man at each weight
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Old 11-19-2013, 06:08 PM   #6
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Rigondeaux would dominate 118-130, LOL...and I am only half joking. Mikey Garcia would probably be on top at 135. Floyd would hold 140-154 hostage. Golovkin has little trouble making weight so he would still reign supreme at 160 AND 168. Ward would obviously be on top at 175. Wlodarczyk has zero trouble making weight so he would still be the class on the division. Those of you who think that Kovalev or Stevenson would just move up and beat this guy are kidding yourselves.
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Old 11-19-2013, 09:39 PM   #7
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A lot of guys who aren't champions and some who aren't even contenders now would be champs.

Canelo is a 154-pound beast when he comes into the right as a super middleweight, but he wouldn't be the best 168 out there IMO -- probably would be pretty average.

I disagree with the guy who posted that we'd have more serious injuries if we had same-day weigh-ins. I'd like to see some data that backs that up since ... for decades we had same-day weigh-ins. I don't remember more catastrophic injuries per capita being the case -- most fighters didn't cut weight and then rehydrate when the weigh-ins were on the same day, and certainly not with IVs and the like.

Weight-drainers drain brain fluid, which doesn't rehydrate overnight. I don't think Ray Leonard and Marvin Hagler and Ray Robinson were walking around three or four weight classes above their fighting weighs and trying to shrink themselves.
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Old 11-20-2013, 12:20 AM   #8
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I would say Floyd schools anybody at 160.
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Old 11-20-2013, 12:22 AM   #9
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Golovkin could still make 160 with a same day weigh-in, his walk-around weight is only about 168. He'd be my choice at MW.
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Old 11-20-2013, 01:55 AM   #10
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If we had same day weigh-ins, we'd be spending a lot more time talking about boxers getting seriously hurt in the ring. I know this doesn't answer your question but I'm not sure how to really answer it when I think same day weigh-ins are a really bad idea from a safety point of view.

yeah i agree. iTs safer to have a guy who weighs in the day before 20lbs lheavier than if he was only 6lbs heavier after the on the day weigh ins.........
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Old 11-20-2013, 01:58 AM   #11
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You're nuts.

More fighters today are getting killed than ever.

Same day weigh-ins are safer because guys are fighting people their own size.
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Old 11-20-2013, 03:55 AM   #12
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You're nuts.

More fighters today are getting killed than ever.

Same day weigh-ins are safer because guys are fighting people their own size.
I agree with this. You wouldn't have guys using drugs shed all excess water and then bulking back up 15-20 lbs. People would be more at their natural weight and it wouldn't come down to who can cut the most effective to cheat the weight system.

Always hear them say "He's big for a XXX lber". Duh, it's because he's NOT that weight class, but should be a couple or more higher.
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Old 11-20-2013, 08:18 AM   #13
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Ok so I guess I was coming at it from the angle of people fighting weight drained i.e. would they REALLY be more inclined to fight at their natural weight or would they still kill themselves and have no recovery time.
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Old 11-20-2013, 10:28 AM   #14
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Ok so I guess I was coming at it from the angle of people fighting weight drained i.e. would they REALLY be more inclined to fight at their natural weight or would they still kill themselves and have no recovery time.
The fighters that did the latter would learn real quick that it was a recipe for disaster. You'd see guys try that in the beginning, but the popularity of it would die down. Let's be honest- the need to get any advantage you can get in boxing has been around since day one. There's a reason most of the old-timers chose not to play the boil down/inflate back up rapidly game- they knew how dangerous and career-shortening it was.

With the current weigh-in system, it's still dangerous to play the weight-draining game, but they've taken just enough of the edge off to where more and more guys think it's worth the risk. I think it'd be safer to go back to the old system, but there's always going to be some guys playing with fire.

From a fighter's standpoint, it's also no coincidence that the guys who use that tactic are never the most skilled. So much time and energy goes in to conditioning and boiling down that improving and mastering their craft is what suffers. Dehydrating to that level also impairs brain function and dries out the fluid that protects your brain.
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Old 11-20-2013, 10:51 AM   #15
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Same day weigh ins, would show how great mayweather truly is.
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