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Old 02-28-2008, 10:24 PM   #1
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Prime vs prime, how do you think Hearns does against Robinson and Basilio at welterweight?
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:28 PM   #2
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Loses to Robinson by KO5. Haven't taken the time out to think about how a Basilio matchup would go down.
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:46 PM   #3
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Not sure, I think Robinson and Basilio could win in 1 or 2 rounds. No way Hearns takes on 2 all time greats at once, and wins.
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:48 PM   #4
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Robinson was unquestionably the greatest welterweight of all-time. At that weight I feel he was the greatest PFP fighter ever. So needless to say I pick Robinson to defeat Hearns. Probably by late round knockout. Basilio was usually the kind of fighter on paper Hearns would destroy. He was on the short side (5ft.61/2") and he came straight foward. However, Basilio was different from a guy like Cuevas in one all-important regard. That being he had an impregnable chin and his stamina was also second to none. So Hearns' murderous punch at WW would not cause Carmen too many problems. Hearns was also a terrific boxer (see Leonard I and Benitez fights). But Carmen's pressure would ostensibly make Hearns wilt as the fight progressed IMO.

Robinson KO 9 Hearns
Basilio KO 13 Hearns
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:52 PM   #5
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Robinson was unquestionably the greatest welterweight of all-time. At that weight I feel he was the greatest PFP fighter ever. So needless to say I pick Robinson to defeat Hearns. Probably by late round knockout. Basilio was usually the kind of fighter on paper Hearns would destroy. He was on the short side (5ft.61/2") and he came straight foward. However, Basilio was different from a guy like Cuevas in one all-important regard. That being he had an impregnable chin and his stamina was also second to none. So Hearns' murderous punch at WW would not cause Carmen too many problems. Hearns was also a terrific boxer (see Leonard I and Benitez fights). But Carmen's pressure would ostensibly make Hearns wilt as the fight progressed IMO.

Robinson KO 9 Hearns
Basilio KO 13 Hearns
Cuevas was thought to have a great chin as well prior to meeting Hearns. There's no way a smaller fighter like that is gonna just walk straight through Hearns's punches on his way to beating him up. I'll take Hearns by mid rounds TKO. If he gets Duran, he'll get Basilio.
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Not sure, I think Robinson and Basilio could win in 1 or 2 rounds. No way Hearns takes on 2 all time greats at once, and wins.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:00 PM   #7
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Robinson was the best at WW ever, but he had trouble with a lot of guys and got a few decision that the other guys should have gotter. That being said, he would have a tough time beating Hearns. Nobody at WW could outbox hearns and I think Hearns would be win until Sugar Ray came back from behing to rough him up and stop him. Basileo would just be too small to be competitive with Tommy and would outboxed.
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Default Re: Thomas Hearns vs Sugar Ray Robinson and Carmen Basilio @ welterweight

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Cuevas was thought to have a great chin as well prior to meeting Hearns. There's no way a smaller fighter like that is gonna just walk straight through Hearns's punches on his way to beating him up. I'll take Hearns by mid rounds TKO. If he gets Duran, he'll get Basilio.

Your points are well taken Sweet Pea. Hearns was at his best at 154 in that Duran fight IMO. But duran definitely came in ill prepared and did not train with the fervor he had for Davey Moore or Hagler. Basilio was consistent and always in top shape. I'll even dare say his chin might have been a tad better than Duran's (although Duran's chin was legendary also). Duran was also a defensive genius who nullified the impact of blows by subtly moving his head and rolling with a punch at the last instant. Basilio had a rawboned toughness that was really exceptional.
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Old 03-02-2008, 12:58 PM   #9
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Hearns decisions Basilio.

Probably loses to SRR by KO, but may outbox him if he tied him up when he got hurt.
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I believe SRR would have to come on late in the fight to KO Hearns in a very close fight with both hurt at times...I go with SRR due to durability and power, he has the capability to step it up and catch Hearns.
Hearns/Basilio? It's easy to discredit Basilio and disregard his chances...But look at the record, he fought everybody in the era, and went toe to toe with stronger/harder hitting opposition...This is a tough one to call for me...but I'll take Hearns by close decision
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Old 03-02-2008, 08:48 PM   #11
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Prime vs prime, how do you think Hearns does against Robinson and Basilio at welterweight?
SRR kos him ,Hearns stops Basilio on a tko ,cuts.
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