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Old 12-31-2013, 12:37 PM   #1
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Default Don Kockell or Bobby Cyz, who was better

from he weight of 160 to heavyweight, who was a better fighter and who had the better resume
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I don't recognize either of those names. Who were they?
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Both good fighters. No quit in either of them.
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Don ****ell was a far superior fighter.
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Kockel had a better heavyweight resume as far as wins and may have been in some tougher middleweight fights but I think Czyz trumps Kockel as a light heavy
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Bobby Czyz for me, I followed him closely in the 80s, he was all over the boxing press. Pushed up in weight too fast I think or he could have been a long term champ at 168 then 175 and he really didn't need to go any heavier. Better than lalonde and he knocked over 2 unbeaten gold medallists, there were good fights for him.
I think with better career management Czyz would have been a more remembered champion.
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Czyz had better skills, and he really wasn't a top level fighter.
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Bobby Czyz for me, I followed him closely in the 80s, he was all over the boxing press. Pushed up in weight too fast I think or he could have been a long term champ at 168 then 175 and he really didn't need to go any heavier. Better than lalonde and he knocked over 2 unbeaten gold medallists, there were good fights for him.
I think with better career management Czyz would have been a more remembered champion.
168 for Bobby is right on. He was made for the Division.
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****ell had big weight problems as a light heavy some kind of glandular condition.Beat Harry Matthews 3 times and Roland LaStarza to earn his shot at Marciano and showed unbelievable courage in their against The Rock, kept firing back despite basically being brutalised legally and illegally!
Head to head I think he beats Czyz.
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****ell had big weight problems as a light heavy some kind of glandular condition.Beat Harry Matthews 3 times and Roland LaStarza to earn his shot at Marciano and showed unbelievable courage in their against The Rock, kept firing back despite basically being brutalised legally and illegally!
Head to head I think he beats Czyz.
and he fought more than them 3 too...
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Bobby up to 175; but then Don was the better once you go above the Light Heavy limit.
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Czyz had better skills, and he really wasn't a top level fighter.
This is based on all the ****ell fights you have seen, which are?
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****ell had big weight problems as a light heavy some kind of glandular condition.Beat Harry Matthews 3 times and Roland LaStarza to earn his shot at Marciano and showed unbelievable courage in their against The Rock, kept firing back despite basically being brutalised legally and illegally!
Head to head I think he beats Czyz.

Kockell did have better wins as a heavyweight and he looked good in winning, Don was not as bad they say and had tremendous heart, Czyz best fight at Heavyweight was the Evander Holyfield loss just before EH fought Tyson.
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